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Cain

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I just "reserved" a copy for a free upgrade (from Windows 7). Did I just make a huge mistake?
 
Cain said:
I just "reserved" a copy for a free upgrade (from Windows 7). Did I just make a huge mistake?
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Only in that it's free to everyone, unless you're XP or earlier.

It's quite nice but the naysayers will moan in July.
 
I'm confused as well. Are they just giving their product away for free? That seems strange.
 
Cain said:
So what's M$'s angle?
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Windows 10 is so resource heavy that those people who have installed it need to buy new PCs and in the process need new OEM Microsoft licences. :D

Alternatively they could merely be shoring up their position by giving the razor (OS) away free so that they can continue to sell us the blades (Microsoft Office and the like).
 
Because they blew it so badly with Win 8.0 that they're trying to get back in our good graces.
 
Cain said:
So what's M$'s angle?
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W10 is, as I said, rather nice imo. It has a lot going for it.
I suspect the one year period for free upgrades is simply an incentive to hurry people to adopt it without humming and ahhing about the cost.
After a year it will be a paid for upgrade, although MS haven't decided on a price. I doubt it will be a lot.

Apples OSs are also free upgrades.

That W10 is supposedly the final version of Windows is reason to prod people into adopting it so that everyone has one experience on their devices. Phone, PC, Surface and Xbox one will all be running Windows 10 and will be friendly with each other. Being an Apple user I see this as a long overdue. The interaction between PC and Xbox One alone is pretty damned brilliant and will sway many folks.

The upgrade process is quick and painless and if you don't like it, which I have no doubt the grumblers won't, you can restore your previous version.

ETA: it's released on July 29.
 
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I'll postpone upgrading probably until pretty close to the limit within which upgrading is free. This just because:

a) I have windows 8 running now how I want it, with settings that make it open straight to desktop, and a third party freeware program that gives me a proper start button, in the style of windows 7. As it now works for me, is stable, and I don't have to ever see the ugly full screen "apps", I'm happy with the status quo.

b) Without exception, large software releases, like a new OS, will have initial problems and annoyances, that will be ironed out after the complaints of early adopters. Rather not have the headache of being beta tester for Microsoft.

c) Within close to a year, software developers will have time to create third party solutions that remove, modify or disable the "helpful" new features that are bound to be sources of headache for desktop users especially, with an OS that is increasingly aimed at mobile devises with small screens.

So it's nice that Microsoft is providing the free update, props to them for that, but I'll be making full use of the time I have before the update ceases to be free.
 
I just reserved on one of my PCs and it now shows the confirmation on both. I wonder if they both will upgrade? I would have thought you had to opt in on each PC.
 
I've also reserved my copy/update. Having been in the Insider program, I have to say that W10 is a nice surprise on top of the older versions.

MY biggest problem right now is not being able to get an answer on wether or not I need to pay for a new W10 update in the future if something happens to my rig that needs a significant hardware change, IE HD failure, and I'll have to reinstall it bottom up 1year and 1 day after the update goes live. You know, have to resort to a complete reinstall from windows 7 up.

Cant seem to coax an answer out of the boards.

Does anyone here know if the update comes with a product key that I can use for reinstallation purposes?
 
DGM said:
If you mean the computer name, yes. The product Id's are different.
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WARNING: RAMPANT SPECULATION AHEAD!

Without knowing too much about the reservation process and the programming there off, there's a chance that the geek in charge of programming the acceptance of the W10 update option have have...erhm....pulled a stupid and linked acceptance to signin name/account instead of product id, This would mean that if you share your account across multiple computers,eg. with a microsoft account sign-in, the acceptance would follow your account, not the product id across machines, automaticly thinking that the computer you are on is going to get updated, even if the productid is different.

This way is offcause silly. Stupid even as some might use different platforms for different work. Alternatively, it could be linked to your external IP. Same problem, though.

Either way, sounds like someone needs to report to the server room for a spanking :D .

ETA: The use of live-id is for win8.1
 
Some confusion might have been avoided if they'd used the words "schedule" or "reminder" rather than "reserve". Whether intentional or not this has confused some people into thinking they need to act now in order to get a free upgrade later.

Obviously you are not actually reserving anything. The update is available free to anyone who wants it on July 29, "reservation" or not. All you're doing is asking for a reminder via the email address you provide, should you have done that, or scheduling an automatic Windows Update which will download the stuff. Either way you're still not obliged to go ahead with the update so talk of it replacing your beloved version without your go ahead is nonsense.
 
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DGM said:
Both are Win 7 64 bit. I'm guessing it's connected to the fact they're both on the same wireless network.
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I have two eligible PCs on my local network and they are acting completely independently. So I doubt it's being on the same network that caused reserving on one PC to reserve on the other PC. Perhaps both of your PCs were registered/activated using the same email address, my two PCs are registered/activated with different email addresses.
 
rjh01 said:
I pity wherever Windows 10 is to be downloaded from. The load on the server would be huge on its release.
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From what I've read I think it's going to be downloaded over a period of time along with the windows regular updates. Most of the files will have already been down-loaded at the time of the release.
 
DGM said:
From what I've read I think it's going to be downloaded over a period of time along with the windows regular updates. Most of the files will have already been down-loaded at the time of the release.
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In other words Windows 10 is not much of an upgrade. Hence it is free (Edit. That cannot be right!). If I do not want Windows 10 then no files should be downloaded into my computer for the upgrade. If many people decide soon after it is released to upgrade without warning then that could be a huge hit both on the servers and the wires connecting the server to home computers.

But if Microsoft decides that it would take a month to give everyone an upgrade then that would reduce the issue.
 
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