Will Donald Trump implode, and when?

Will The Donald's campaign implode (by certain definitions of "implode") and when?

  • He will implode before the convention. He might even get replaced!

    Votes: 2 3.5%

  • He will implode at the convention with the most idiotic acceptance speech ever.

    Votes: 6 10.5%

  • He will implode after the convention and get stomped into the dirt in November.

    Votes: 22 38.6%

  • He will NOT implode! VIVA EL DONALDO!!!

    Votes: 5 8.8%

  • He's already imploded, he's toast.

    Votes: 11 19.3%

  • Planet X will implode into a black hole of everlasting love!

    Votes: 11 19.3%
  • Total voters
    57
I predict that Donald Trump will be the next hero in Sharknado 5: You're Fired!.

After all, it is a sure thing that the Donald will have much better success at fighting CGI sharks than he ever could in dealing with political reality.
 
Most of you don't seem to know any Trump supporters in real life. Here in the Heartland, they post pictures on Facebook of fighter jets, with comments like "Be patient, ISIS, our next president won't be your Muslim brother." This from a more-or-less mainstream Republican, a local elected official. They really do want the Mexicans kept out, they really do want somebody to bomb ISIS to nonexistence, and they really do think Trump will do those things. And yes, they really do think these two actions - restricting immigration and bombing Muslims - would have prevented Orlando.

It doesn't matter here, of course, because Chicago will deliver the state for Clinton no matter what happens, but I'm sure they aren't alone. I think it's straight from Bizarro World, but I think Orlando delivered the presidency to Trump.

And I've never hoped more strongly that I was wrong.
 
poblob14 said:
Most of you don't seem to know any Trump supporters in real life. Here in the Heartland, they post pictures on Facebook of fighter jets, with comments like "Be patient, ISIS, our next president won't be your Muslim brother." This from a more-or-less mainstream Republican, a local elected official. They really do want the Mexicans kept out, they really do want somebody to bomb ISIS to nonexistence, and they really do think Trump will do those things. And yes, they really do think these two actions - restricting immigration and bombing Muslims - would have prevented Orlando.

It doesn't matter here, of course, because Chicago will deliver the state for Clinton no matter what happens, but I'm sure they aren't alone. I think it's straight from Bizarro World, but I think Orlando delivered the presidency to Trump.

And I've never hoped more strongly that I was wrong.
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Nah, he us still the most widely hated candidate ever. All the polls done after Orlando show him down and polls show the Americans disapprove of his response. Plus his campaign is almost nonexistent. It literally has less money than lots of House campaigns.

He is going to lose. I can't wait.
 
Trump doesn't implode, he explodes. It'll be the greatest explosion ever. It will be massive. It will be amazing. The Trump explosion will me the big bang look like a mere firecracker. Nobody's explosion can rival a Trump explosion.
 
Just to let you know Trump's popularity rating in Australia. Remember that the US presidency affects other countries, particularly allies of which we are one. These are percentages of support for who Australians would like to see as the next US president.

Clinton 75%
Someone else 14%
Trump 11%
 
Norman Alexander said:
Just to let you know Trump's popularity rating in Australia. Remember that the US presidency affects other countries, particularly allies of which we are one. These are percentages of support for who Australians would like to see as the next US president.

Clinton 75%
Someone else 14%
Trump 11%
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From polls I've seen, the only G20 country that wants Trump to win is Russia. And that may be because they (correctly) believe that Trump will severely damage the reputation of the US.
 
poblob14 said:
but I think Orlando delivered the presidency to Trump.
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It could have. It could have delivered it to Trump if (1) he had enough empathy to make his first post about the victims instead of making it about himself and (2) if he had a clear and consistent position on guns in the United States.

Instead he followed the only strategy he has ever know: looking around the room, making a judgement about what those particular folks want to hear and, then just saying it. This time he judged incorrectly and rather than admit a mistake (Trump hates looking weak) he came up with one more pathetic excuse about everyone misunderstanding his comments. Ironically, in trying not to look weak, he has made himself look weak to those independents who expect their president to handle the hours and days after a crisis.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Just to let you know Trump's popularity rating in Australia. Remember that the US presidency affects other countries, particularly allies of which we are one. These are percentages of support for who Australians would like to see as the next US president.

Clinton 75%
Someone else 14%
Trump 11%
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Just more proof that all you furriners are commie atheist mooslim socialists!
 
Upchurch said:
This would all be far more entertaining if I hadn't overestimated US voters for letting Trump get this far and my lingering uncertainty that they'll let him get farther.
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Trump is taking advantage of the GOP trying to turn into the Whig party since the 2004 election ... as is Hillary.

I think they'll both get what they want.
I think Donald will get the personal satisfaction of bringing the house down on a party that has lost its way.
Hillary will get what she wants.
 
lobosrul said:
No implosion, just a slow and steady decline. Poll after poll has him well down. It'll just get worse as more Bernie supporters come around after the convention, and he alienates every single republican that isn't deeply bigoted.

Latest has HRC up +8, or +6 with Johnson and Stein included.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/
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That is nowhere near as bad for Trump as what it should be. That is only a maximum of a lead of 8 points, which can disappear if Clinton puts her foot in it.
 
poblob14 said:
I think Orlando delivered the presidency to Trump.
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I don't. Orlando seems to have strengthened ties between disparate liberal groups - LGBT groups and anti-gun groups for example. Meanwhile, those who honestly believe that the Orlando shooting had anything to do with immigration or ISIS' operations anywhere in the world probably were already in Trump's camp to begin with. And Republicans now seem to be splintering over gun control issues.

I don't think Orlando is going to change a single general election vote.

I think it will strengthen the free-the-delegates cause growing among Republicans, but I am very skeptical that any of that will succeed.
 
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rdaneel said:
Like the gun comments he's now backtracking because even the NRA, THE NRA mind you, said "Whoa, Dude!".
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I like that his way of "backtracking" is always to deny he ever said it in the first place. Or to say that "obviously" what he meant was something else.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump is backtracking from his contention that victims of the Orlando massacre should have been allowed to carry arms into the nightclub where they were attacked — a stance even the NRA says is untenable.

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee tweeted Monday that he was "obviously talking about additional guards or employees" of the Orlando, Florida, nightclub where the attack happened when he spoke about the value of having more people armed to challenge the gunman.

That's not what Trump said previously.

A day after the attack, he told radio host Howie Carr: "It's too bad that some of the young people that were killed over the weekend didn't have guns, you know, attached to their hips, frankly, and you know where bullets could have flown in the opposite direction, Howie. It would have been a much different deal. I mean, it sounded like there were no guns. They had a security guard. Other than that there were no guns in the room. Had people been able to fire back, it would have been a much different outcome."

Trump had repeated his suggestion at rallies across the country last week. In Atlanta he said the carnage would have been lessened if "some of those great people that were in that club that night had guns strapped to their waist or strapped to their ankle."
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rjh01 said:
That is nowhere near as bad for Trump as what it should be. That is only a maximum of a lead of 8 points, which can disappear if Clinton puts her foot in it.
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Most polls had him only a couple of points behind a month ago. The gap is widening and rapidly. I think Johnson is pulling quite a bit more voters away from Trump than HRC.
 
lobosrul said:
Most polls had him only a couple of points behind a month ago. The gap is widening and rapidly. I think Johnson is pulling quite a bit more voters away from Trump than HRC.
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This is the Libertarian Party's big break. If they can just rein in the crazy for the next six months, a sizeable chunk of the GOP might vote for them to spite Trump.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
This is the Libertarian Party's big break. If they can just rein in the crazy for the next six months, a sizeable chunk of the GOP might vote for them to spite Trump.
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Yeah, my respect for Johnson took a pretty big tumble recently when he told a pretty big lie. I don't agree with all of their platform, but at least I thought they were honest.

If I do end up voting for him its purely as a protest, not because I actually want Johnson to be president.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...arian-candidate-gary-johnson-mischaracterize/
 
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