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What did Democrats do wrong?

What did Democrats do wrong?

  • Didn't fight inflation enough.

    Votes: 12 15.6%

  • Didn't fight illegal immigration enough.

    Votes: 22 28.6%

  • Too much focus on abortion.

    Votes: 1 1.3%

  • Too much transgender stuff.

    Votes: 28 36.4%

  • America not ready for Progressive women leader.

    Votes: 26 33.8%

  • Should have kept Joe.

    Votes: 2 2.6%

  • Not enough focus on new jobs.

    Votes: 2 2.6%

  • Nothing, Trump cheated & played dirty!

    Votes: 14 18.2%

  • Didn't stop Gaza War.

    Votes: 8 10.4%

  • I can be Agent M.

    Votes: 6 7.8%
  • Total voters
    77
dirtywick said:
typically your tattoo artist would warn you about getting a nazi tattoo.
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He says he got in Croatia, and picked from the possibilities displayed on the wall of the shop.

I don't know how typical that is, but I'd imagine the kind of tattoo artist that warns you about getting Nazi ink isn't the kind of tattoo artist that has Nazi ink on display in the first place.

Also, the Balkans are notorious for people hating each other so much that they'll happily sign on with whichever regime is currently trying to genocide the next village over. People there hold grudges going back to the Ottoman empire. So it tracks, for me, that there'd be a Croatian tattoo parlor offering Nazi ink.

What doesn't track for me is this guy not knowing what he had until last week. This was perhaps excusable as a youthful indiscretion thirty years ago when it first happened. But not taking any corrective action in the three decades since? Come on. This guy is more Nazi than the Azov Brigade.
 
theprestige said:
I think when you have an SS Totenkopf tattooed on your chest, you graduate to actual Nazi.
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Hey, he's saying that he thinks being a Nazis is bad now. Compared to some of the people across the aisle its a step up.

Still a *****y choice though.

I would like to think the Democratic leadership knew there would be trouble with Platner and recruited Mills as a backup, but the cynic in me knows they didn't think about it at all.

Oh, well. I'm in Massachusetts so I don't have to worry about that particular choice.
 
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theprestige said:
Elon Musk waves at a crowd? Literal Nazi.
Actual SS Totenkopf ink on a Democrat? Could be a misunderstanding.
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A note here...

- Elon Musk was not considered a "nazi" just because of his wave. For example, his changes at Twitter allowed ultra-right text to thrive, endorsed an anti-semetic tweet, and supported a candidate who had dinner with a white nationalist and called Neo-nazis "fine people".. Had he not done those other things, people might have simply seen his "nazi salute" as some sort of unfortunate misunderstanding. Its when it comes at the end of all those other "incidents" that people make a big deal of it.
 
Segnosaur said:
A note here...

- Elon Musk was not considered a "nazi" just because of his wave. For example, his changes at Twitter allowed ultra-right text to thrive, endorsed an anti-semetic tweet, and supported a candidate who had dinner with a white nationalist and called Neo-nazis "fine people".. Had he not done those other things, people might have simply seen his "nazi salute" as some sort of unfortunate misunderstanding. Its when it comes at the end of all those other "incidents" that people make a big deal of it.
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MAGA tends to ignore body of work when they are making excuses for the bad behavior of their favorite people.
 
I think in the end what they did wrong was to think the Republics were fundamentally the same as they were, with the same overall goal of making the USA work, yes that meant they thought they would have the usual level of corruption, tweak things here and there but overall act like the republicans used to. They seem to have missed the complete takeover of the republicans by the far right, no not far right the extreme far right.
 
theprestige said:
Well let your charity flow, because that's exactly what he did.*

*Technically, he didn't remove it, but covered it up.
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Not really the same thing, though, is it? Tattoo removal would be an expense, and require time and effort, and would be a physical admission that --if nothing else -- the tattoo was a mistake. We wouldn't be able to know, of course, if he removed it because he repented of Nazi beliefs, or just because he thought he'd fare better in politics without it. But he didn't even do that.

Zero effort devoted means zero credit given. Even deception requires an effort be made!
 
Segnosaur said:
A note here...

- Elon Musk was not considered a "nazi" just because of his wave. For example, his changes at Twitter allowed ultra-right text to thrive, endorsed an anti-semetic tweet, and supported a candidate who had dinner with a white nationalist and called Neo-nazis "fine people".. Had he not done those other things, people might have simply seen his "nazi salute" as some sort of unfortunate misunderstanding. Its when it comes at the end of all those other "incidents" that people make a big deal of it.
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NVM. The "MechaHitler" thing was after the "Nazi salute" thing...
 
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Darat said:
I think in the end what they did wrong was to think the Republics were fundamentally the same as they were, with the same overall goal of making the USA work, yes that meant they thought they would have the usual level of corruption, tweak things here and there but overall act like the republicans used to. They seem to have missed the complete takeover of the republicans by the far right, no not far right the extreme far right.
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Oh, please. American progressives have been talking about how the GOP has been taken over by Nazis since the Bush administration.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Not really the same thing, though, is it? Tattoo removal would be an expense, and require time and effort, and would be a physical admission that --if nothing else -- the tattoo was a mistake. We wouldn't be able to know, of course, if he removed it because he repented of Nazi beliefs, or just because he thought he'd fare better in politics without it. But he didn't even do that.

Zero effort devoted means zero credit given. Even deception requires an effort be made!
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I'm talking about a tattoo coverup: new ink that obscures the old image with a new one - in this case a wolf. So it is a physical admission, with some effort made.

What did you think I was talking about? Him keeping his shirt on in public?
 
Segnosaur said:
I am not really sure what your reference is supposed to show.
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It's the sort of data which you ought to have shown in order to back up you claim that immigrants are not competing for the same jobs as native-born low-skilled workers, but instead you simply asserted your claim is true without citing any sources at all. Poor form for an evidence-oriented community, IMO.
 
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d4m10n said:
It's the sort of data which you ought to have shown in order to back up you claim that immigrants are not competing for the same jobs as native-born low-skilled workers, but instead you simply asserted your claim is true without citing any sources at all. Poor form for an evidence-oriented community, IMO.
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So...how come the farmers are complaining about lack of workers during harvest after the ice raids. Where are the hard working 'murricans now that the "competition" has gone?
 
theprestige said:
I'm talking about a tattoo coverup: new ink that obscures the old image with a new one - in this case a wolf. So it is a physical admission, with some effort made.

What did you think I was talking about? Him keeping his shirt on in public?
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Heh, I missed that. I actually thought "cover up" meant make-up!
 
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