Vision From Feeling

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VisionFromFeeling said:
I am majoring in Chemistry and in Physics. Chemistry, and Physics.
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The first link appears to be the university-wide data base, the second appears to be the school of physics. Perhaps you need to click on the 'click here if your student information is incorrect' link?

VisionFromFeeling said:
*I feel like this discussion is inappropriate. Do keep in mind that my university is not affiliated with my paranormal investigation and that I do not represent my university.
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It goes to your credibility. If information that we can check up is inconsistent with what you claim, your fraud quotient increases.
 
Jeff Corey said:
I specified that she wasn't on the Fall 2008 list.
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Yes you did, but your link went to the 2006 list. Is that the one you were looking at, and thinking it was the 2008 list? (Yes, I realize that that in no way impacts on her NOT being on the 2008 list.)
 
Ashles, happy birthday. Along with others, I think you've done a wonderful job in helping to assist in some kind of test taking place. Of course, it was doomed to failure. What now? As per usual, Anita will claim "impatience" on part of us skeptics.

At this point, the wheel can only go around and around. If Anita were really interested in testing this ability, in establishing whether it was real or not, she could have done it in 10 minutes. She could have convinced all of us a thousand times by now.

What are her intentions? I'm starting to think perhaps she's just lonely.
 
Dear Skeptics,
I did not produce incorrect medical perceptions in the viewing with Wayne. I said that I felt a tired left shoulder to an insignificant extent and that I sensed his adam's apple. Neither of which I identified as health problems. My conclusion at the end of seeing Wayne was that I found no health problems.

I will look into the possibility of arranging a study into my paranormal claim together with college students from my university if I find any that are interested in experiencing an attempt of applying the scientific method to explaining an unusual experience. It could be an educational experience for all of us students involved. These would have to be students who I do not know prior, and thus preferably in another major field such as Biology or Psychology. These students could act as participating skeptics. I want to have my study as soon as possible and while I begin making other arrangements on the side, the FACT Skeptics can take their time.

I strongly feel that my 1st Study does not need to be like a test, since it is not a test. But if there is a 2nd Study it will implement even more test conditions and will gradually approach being conducted under proper test conditions.

However, school comes first, so don't you all get frustrated if it takes time for me to arrange it.
 
What's that Anita? Starting to lose us, so dangling a possible study in front of us? Nobody believes you.

The only students that can benefit from your study are the psychology students.

And I have to laugh at the notion that school comes first. It comes above potentially saving billions of lives with your incredible discovery? It comes before revealing yourself as the more amazing person the world has ever seen? You craaaazyyyy.
 
Old man said:
Yes you did, but your link went to the 2006 list. Is that the one you were looking at, and thinking it was the 2008 list? (Yes, I realize that that in no way impacts on her NOT being on the 2008 list.)
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No, I just posted the wrong link after viewing a few lists because that one was updated on 1/27/09.
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
I just don't like being called a liar when I'm telling the truth, and here is one of the things that can be proven with documentation.
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Fair enough. I apologize for inferring that you were lying about this specific issue. Congratulations on your accomplishment. It is impressive, and you have every right to defend it.

UncaYimmy said:
Here's my feeling on the whole 4.0 GPA thing: I don't care if it's absolutely true or reasonably certain to be true or possibly true. Her GPA doesn't mean squat to me. I only care if she's lying about it *and* that lie can be easily exposed. It cannot. Case closed for me.
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Ditto.

VisionFromFeeling said:
I did not produce incorrect medical perceptions in the viewing with Wayne. I said that I felt a tired left shoulder to an insignificant extent and that I sensed his adam's apple.
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Yes, you were incorrect. He did not have a tired left shoulder, insignificant or otherwise. He did not have discomfort in his throat, related to his Adam's apple or otherwise. You did not "sense" his Adam's apple. You can keep reiterating the lies, and they will still be lies.

It's no wonder your honesty is considered doubtful.

VisionFromFeeling said:
I will look into the possibility of arranging a study into my paranormal claim together with college students from my university if I find any that are interested in experiencing an attempt of applying the scientific method to explaining an unusual experience. It could be an educational experience for all of us students involved. These would have to be students who I do not know prior, and thus preferably in another major field such as Biology or Psychology. These students could act as participating skeptics. I want to have my study as soon as possible and while I begin making other arrangements on the side, the FACT Skeptics can take their time.
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Yawn. Just more words that will come to nothing.

nathan said:
It goes to your credibility. If information that we can check up is inconsistent with what you claim, your fraud quotient increases.
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Anita doesn't get that. She never will.

Ashles said:
It is meaningless to say she values participation when every single action she makes demonstrates she clearly does not.Anita has NO interest in anyone's input, suggestions, participation... nothing. Anything that might tighten the protocol or yield useful information is simply rejected or ignored.
She is as self centred as a gyroscope.
This entire claim from here on in is, to me, entirely for the entertainment that will be generated by watching her attempt to squirm out of testing.
And alienating yet further skeptic groups.
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Agreed.

At this stage, unless Anita posts results of a "study"-and I'm not holding my breath for that-any further discussion with her is fruitless.

You did good, Ashles. Kudos to your patience and perseverance.
 
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Does anyone wonder why Anita refers to the forthcoming activity as a "study," and that she has emphasized this numerous times?


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Moochie said:
Does anyone wonder why Anita refers to the forthcoming activity as a "study," and that she has emphasized this numerous times?


M.
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No. It's like referring to her anecdotes as "example" instead of "evidence". It's just Anita, doing the wiggle.
 
Moochie said:
Does anyone wonder why Anita refers to the forthcoming activity as a "study," and that she has emphasized this numerous times?


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Its skillful con talk

a "test" would be go/no-go as to whether she actually has something to be studied. To fail there brings the curtain down forever.

Cant have that.
A "study" implies ( subtley) that the "ability" is a fact ( backdoor proof and acknowledgement that its legitimate) and a "study" can forever be bogged down in ambiguity. ( much as has been seen in this thread by suggesting this and rejecting that with all the aloof flowery reasons that are meaningless)

Remember, a con KNOWS its a con and since they know this, they will NEVER allow themselves to face a test of "proof" because then the con is over.

Thats what she is doing and why. Shes running a scam.
 
It is odd that she wants to conduct a "study", and has repeatedly said this will not be a test. Why not just do a test? Her claim is that she wants to study the extent of her ability...which we do not know exists. Because there has been no test.
 
Jeff Corey said:
No, I just posted the wrong link after viewing a few lists because that one was updated on 1/27/09.
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All of those Chancellor pages were updated on 1/27/09 at 4:12:23 PM.

There are six lists available for viewing, and she's on two of them. You did not mention that rather important detail, maybe because you didn't look.

The page you linked to had no indication of the time period it covered. We had to figure that out from the URL, and it turns out to be from 2006, which, as we understand it, is before she enrolled.

I said that people should be more careful. I stand by that statement.
 
Here's why I agree that VfF needs the "study." She has no testable claim. If the study yields a claim, then it's worth doing. Whether the study will ever happen or ever yield a claim is another debate entirely. Neither F.A.C.T. nor IIG can conduct any sort of test. Test of what? What's the claim? She says the study's designed to give her a more specific claim. The flaws in the study are irrelevant. The only relevant aspect of the study is that it might (might!) give her enough confidence to make an actual specific testable claim. Then that claim can be tested by F.A.C.T. It can be tested by IIG and she can win their $50K and then she can add a million to that by applying for Randi's MDC.

That being said, I understand how she could stop after a poorly designed "study" and say that it's proof of her powers.

She says she's not going to do that, but um.........

Ward
 
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