Upcoming riots from the elections: how bad will they be

[bruto]

And some conservative writers have been merciless on Trump. George Will comes to mind.
The claim that no conservatives who have opposed Trump and Maga is pure BS, frankly. It is as bad as the crap that MAGA puts out.

You could add Phil Scott, the R. governor of Vermont, who announced in 2020 that he was voting for Biden and is sure not to support Trump this time either. The party hates him of course*, but I think he's holding out as a Republican in hope of being one of the few left standing after the MAGA collapse. And maybe he's thinking about running for Pres., who knows?

*It took the State GOP's emergency pettifogging committee or whatever they would call it about a minute and a half to come up with a reinterpretation of the State GOP's standing rule against endorsing a convicted felon. On the MAGA wagon, the only rule is not to fall off.

 

[ZiprHead]

And some conservative writers have been merciless on Trump. George Will comes to mind.
The claim that no conservatives who have opposed Trump and Maga is pure BS, frankly. It is as bad as the crap that MAGA puts out.

While I agree with the above, the fact is that these people and anyone not MAGA conservative are not welcome in the Republican party any longer.

 

[bruto]

While I agree with the above, the fact is that these people and anyone not MAGA conservative are not welcome in the Republican party any longer.

That's the thing. There are still some conservatives and old-line Republicans who aren't on the MAGA bandwagon, but they're also not in the good graces of the party itself. Here in Vermont, Republican governor Phil Scott remains the most popular governor in the country, with a 76 percent approval rating in a blue state, but the party hates him. If the party had any brains they'd run him for President. He could win.

 

[varwoche]

In what way do you believe that I do NOT consider there to be a distinction between far right fringe groups and conservatives?

Seriously, I've about worn out my fingertips trying to reinforce that most conservatives are NOT fringy idiots, and being repeatedly told by you and your ilk that not only are ALL CONSERVATIVES evil bloodsucking bastard fascists... but so are centrists and independents who aren't slavering with hatred toward conservatives.

While it's true that not all conservatives are evil bloodsucking bastard fascists, you're living in the past. The GOP has been subsumed in entirety by the MAGA cult. Just ask Liz Cheney.

 

[arthwollipot]

There are a lot of conservatives who oppose Trump and the MAGA for which he stands. Among them:

• Mitt Romney
• Jeff Flake
• Liz Cheney
• Adam Kinzinger
• Paul Ryan
• Chris Shays
• Joe Walsh
• Chris Christie
• Asa Hutchinson
• Geoff Duncan
• Michael Steele
• J Michael Luttig
• Mark Esper
• Chuck Hagel
• John Bolton
• Cassidy Hutchinson
• Miles Taylor

They need to form a new conservative party and run against the MAGA republicans. Sure, it'll split the conservative vote and they'll probably have to spend a couple of terms with Democrats in office but they will be okay with that because they believe in democracy.

 

[varwoche]

in four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote.

Ixnay. We must not call attention. Subverting democracy might be bad, but not as bad as inflaming people.

 

[bruto]

Ixnay. We must not call attention. Subverting democracy might be bad, but not as bad as inflaming people.

Oh, there you go again! The blood-red radical off to the barricades already! All you would have to do to avoid carnage would let the poor old guy have this one. How hard is that, really? The years slide by hardly noticed and there's plenty of time to hash out the next compromise before the next coup looms. No wonder the world is such a mess, with intransigent incendiaries like you stirring things up.

 

[Emily's Cat]

While it's true that not all conservatives are evil bloodsucking bastard fascists, you're living in the past. The GOP has been subsumed in entirety by the MAGA cult. Just ask Liz Cheney.

That's no more and no less true than saying that the Democratic Party has been subsumed in entirety by the Antifa/ACAB/TransEuphoria/Progressive cult.

There are a fair bit of "mainstream" Dem policies that are pretty widely embraced by the entire party, that are viewed as extreme progressive wankery by people outside the party. Nearly the entire Dem representation in congress is fully in support of letting males play on female sports and subverting the entire purpose of Title IX. Nearly all of them are perfectly fine with putting male prisoners in female prisons based on their declaration of a gendered soul. Most Dems support granting citizenship to illegal immigrants if they're already inside the border, and oppose stringent policing of our borders and deportation of illegal crossers. A whole lot of Dems support student loan forgiveness and pretty aggressive redistribution of wealth, as well as continued outsourcing of primary resource needs to foreign countries - especially China who is not even remotely an ally. Most Dems support extreme approaches to climate change that will absolutely **** over average citizens and make a reasonable living unattainable. Most Dems support fairly explicitly socialist policies, including substantial expansion of government power and budget. Most Dems support Equity over Equality, and just try to brush aside the fact that this is a marxist premise.

Both parties are currently dominated by their edges. The difference is that a substantial portion of ISF posters are progressives who don't understand that their views are NOT moderate in any way at all, and are actually pretty extreme from the perspective of your average american.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

You are kidding.
Democrats are not near any edge, unless you are talking about the one separating them from Republicans.

 

[Emily's Cat]

You are kidding.
Democrats are not near any edge, unless you are talking about the one separating them from Republicans.

The vast majority of Americans do NOT want males competing against females, nor do they want males placed in female prisons. And yet this is a policy that Dems support across the board.

The vast majority of Americans do NOT want to grant citizenship to people who have entered the US illegally, yet this is a platform that Dems support across the board.

The vast majority of Americans do NOT want to just forgive student loans, but this is something that Dems support.

I get it though - when you yourself are three standard deviations from the norm, you just don't realize that you ARE the edge case.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Most Americans don't care about most of the stuff you write.

They are much more worried about wealth inequality and lack of healthcare.

 

[Shalamar]

Most Americans don't care about most of the stuff you write.

They are much more worried about wealth inequality and lack of healthcare.

Which is why conservatives want to make Trans gendered immigrants who don't want to pay off their student loans the villains.

 

[Disbelief]

The vast majority of Americans do NOT want males competing against females, nor do they want males placed in female prisons. And yet this is a policy that Dems support across the board.

The vast majority of Americans do NOT want to grant citizenship to people who have entered the US illegally, yet this is a platform that Dems support across the board.

The vast majority of Americans do NOT want to just forgive student loans, but this is something that Dems support.

I get it though - when you yourself are three standard deviations from the norm, you just don't realize that you ARE the edge case.

A whole lot of bald assertions in this post.