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UFO help needed!

kittynh

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It's been a bit since I've posted one of my "ask an expert" questions on UFOs here. I'm posting this one as it comes from someone that does NOT think the 2 experiences are of alien crafts. We have a skeptic that has seen 2 really peculiar things.

I'm guessing this all took place in Canada.

Let's help out a fellow "skeptic" with some good suggestions of what's going on in the skies above his cabin!

here's the important part of his question...



that said I have seen two different Ufo's at my cabin. Once alone and once both a friend and I watched the UFO while having a cigar and Scotch. It was three red lights. In the same pattern and varying in intensity. I watch the night sky often and know the difference between an airplane and satellite. This occurred over a large lake. Would it be possible to be the afterburners from airplanes? (even thought here was no sound)

My second sighting was in the same location. A star just appeared and zipped around the sky super fast, disappearing and reappearing. This lasted about the same amount of time 1 minute or so.


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thanks
 
Some location information might help. Maybe the season. And some perspective.
Like, is it in in a place with fireflys? Were the lights high, or not so high? What time of day or night? Were there mountains in view?
 
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First, UFO means "unidentified". If you're wanting to say you've seen alien space craft, how about having the courage to say so.

Second, if you do so claim, what is your basis for a claim of extraterrestrial origin.

That's the first steps in dealing with UFO claims. After than you can ask how the hell they got here, and why, after coming all this way, they don't want to tell us "hi"?
 
There is not enough information to help you other than to say it sounds like a UFO!
 
Gawdzilla said:
First, UFO means "unidentified". If you're wanting to say you've seen alien space craft, how about having the courage to say so.

Second, if you do so claim, what is your basis for a claim of extraterrestrial origin.

That's the first steps in dealing with UFO claims. After than you can ask how the hell they got here, and why, after coming all this way, they don't want to tell us "hi"?
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Read the opening post again, this time try to focus on what's actually said, not your preconceptions about the people who make UFO sightings.
 
Gawdzilla said:
That's the first steps in dealing with UFO claims. After than you can ask how the hell they got here, and why, after coming all this way, they don't want to tell us "hi"?
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If they're trying to hide, they're not doing a very good job of it.
 
Well, really we don't have much info here. But
kittynh said:
It was three red lights. In the same pattern and varying in intensity.
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I think we can all recognize three red lights as a likely airplane marker light configuration. And the varying intensity can easily be wispy clouds between the lights and the observer

And
kittynh said:
A star just appeared and zipped around the sky super fast, disappearing and reappearing. This lasted about the same amount of time 1 minute or so.
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Does the observer wear glasses? I've experienced something very similar sitting on my back porch. After it repeated a few times I finally figured out it was a reflection off my glasses from inside the house where my wife was putting wine glasses away in the kitchen cabinets. What really helped was my friend with me on the porch who looked at me like I was crazy when I breathlessly said "do you see that?"

ETA: oh, and the large lake might be a big clue. When it cools off at night mist rises off lakes so there is a lot of water vapor in the air that can reflect light, bend it, etc..
 
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Gawdzilla said:
First, UFO means "unidentified". If you're wanting to say you've seen alien space craft, how about having the courage to say so.

Second, if you do so claim, what is your basis for a claim of extraterrestrial origin.

That's the first steps in dealing with UFO claims. After than you can ask how the hell they got here, and why, after coming all this way, they don't want to tell us "hi"?
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Did you actually read beyond the thread title?
 
madurobob said:
I think we can all recognize three red lights as a likely airplane marker light configuration. And the varying intensity can easily be wispy clouds between the lights and the observer
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It would be even better if green lights were also seen. It would be quite coincidental that ET also uses our navigation lights.
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Hmm... scotch , and cigars (with glowing red embers) you say?
:)
 
Resume said:
It would be even better if green lights were also seen. It would be quite coincidental that ET also uses our navigation lights.
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I have a cousin who lives a few miles away on the top of a large, bald hill. He sees UFOs all the time and he invites friends out to come watch them. I've spent a few evenings there (yes, drinking scotch and smoking cigars!) and have seen lots of moving lights obviously belonging to some sort of aircraft.

I know I'm not the first or only person to bring this up, but... aliens flew millions of miles to get here in what would have to be amazingly advanced spacecraft, they have not made themselves overtly known to us for reasons unknown to us (but we can assume they want to remain secret), they only fly in our skies at night... and they cover their craft with red, white and green lights so we can see them? Crazy aliens.
 
kittynh said:
.... It was three red lights. In the same pattern and varying in intensity....
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More information needed, like time, position and month, but as one of the local amateur astronomers in my city, many people often mistake the three belt stars in Orion for a formation of UFO's. Low elevation can tinge the colour to red and atmospherics can cause some wild scintillation, varying the intensity quite a bit.
 
Offhand I would guess a satellite with a micro black hole between you and it causing gravitational lensing. Or possibly something less (tee hee!) mundane.
 
Not really enough data. That being said, the Chinese lantern craze has sparked its share of UFO reports. Seen from a distance, they look like red lights that eventually extinguish and "disappear".

The second sighting could be a meteor but the "reappearing" part seems to rule that out. Perhaps a satellite that faded and increased in brightness (i.e. tumbling). That is where my thinking takes me on that one.

Again, location, time and date if it is a solution involving a satellite or bright fireball would help.
 
Denver said:
Hmm... scotch , and cigars (with glowing red embers) you say?
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Nice :)

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This might help shed light:

I was riding my bike one night, when through the trees I could clearly see a set of three red lights .... moving around in relation to each other. They were on a set course, but the three lights appeared to not be on the same fixed aircraft. It was as though they were sort of making a weaving pattern. And there was no sound that I could hear.

As I cleared out from under the tree, my heart started pounding and racing, as I watched these three red lights continue to do as I described .... sort of weaving around in relation to each other, moving in the same direction, westerly, still with no discernible sound.

I'm not one to look for UFO's purposefully, but this was unreal to me. I thought for sure I was seeing something that was going to be hard to explainable and it was all too eerie. And for the most part, the night sky was clear except for a very thin low cloud level.

As I stared closer, I noticed the objects become clearer to me. They were three propeller craft, something similar to a P-51 Mustang, and they were flying in a loose formation. I began to clearly make out their shape and design, although I still couldn't hear any discernible noise.

After I got home, I checked to see if there were any air shows coming up at the NAS west of my city, and sure enough ... within a few days there was and on display were going to be classic military aircraft, etc and so forth. So I assume those aircraft were headed in that direction for that purpose.

To me, it's a great example of seeing something that had some eerie attributes, but being easily explained to a variety of visibility conditions, possible background noise, odd aircraft that one is not used to seeing (at my age) flying through the night sky, esp. in formation .. etc and so forth. It was easy to get all worked up over nothing whatsoever.

I've also seen remote controlled planes flying at sunset which took me awhile to identify. The glimmer off the craft, the movements, and the empty sky in which they were flying added to what appeared to honestly be a shooting star coming in and out of view, darting around and then disappearing, only to reappear somewhere else. For a remote control toy plane, the speed seemed perhaps more exacerbated by my odd angle of perspective. But after almost 15 minutes of watching it, it became clear what it was.

Just something to throw out there ..... don't be so quick to jump to "aliens!". It could be that you saw older aircraft behaving in ways not typical of aircraft you are used to seeing. Regardless, if you don't know what it is, UFO is simply that ... an unidentified flying object.
 
madurobob said:
I know I'm not the first or only person to bring this up, but... aliens flew millions of miles to get here in what would have to be amazingly advanced spacecraft, they have not made themselves overtly known to us for reasons unknown to us (but we can assume they want to remain secret), they only fly in our skies at night... and they cover their craft with red, white and green lights so we can see them? Crazy aliens.
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I've always assumed it was bored teenage aliens messing with us so they can have a good laugh at our expense.
 
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