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Trump's Second Term

The United States Is About to Embark on a Terrifying Experiment in Mass Statelessness

Slate said:
In a 6–3 ruling along ideological lines, the court declared that federal judges no longer have the authority to issue nationwide injunctions, an essential tool for halting executive orders across the country while their legality is challenged. The case centered on Executive Order 14160, signed by President Donald Trump in January, which directs federal agencies to stop recognizing the U.S. citizenship of children born to undocumented or temporary-status parents. The ruling did not assess the constitutionality of that executive order. Instead, it limited who can be protected from it.
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Justice Sonia Sotomayor, in a blistering dissent read aloud from the bench, called the decision “a travesty for the rule of law.” Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson went further, warning that the court’s ruling gives the president “the go-ahead to sometimes wield the kind of unchecked, arbitrary power the Founders crafted our Constitution to eradicate.” But the damage is already unfolding. Without the shield of nationwide injunctions, the path is now clear for federal agencies to selectively enforce the executive order, denying documentation to newborns in some states while recognizing it in others, based not on constitutional principle but on geography.
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The United States Is About to Embark on a Terrifying Experiment in Mass Statelessness

This scenario, until recently, might have read like a dystopian projection. But after the court’s decision on Friday, it is no longer hypothetical.
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Jack by the hedge said:
Wait till someone suggests to Trump if he just makes everyone in the world a US citizen he can collect taxes from all of them.
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I can 100% see him attempting a scam where he makes someone a citizen and starts collecting taxes from them, but then denies them entry into the country. Like that dating scam where the mark has to keep paying money to the wonderful person they've met online, but never get to actually meet them.

"Yes, Mr. Chang, we understand that you are upset, but sometimes these mistakes happen, but everything should be fixed for real now and we will have everything ready in two weeks so you can enter our beautiful country! Now just remember to keep paying your taxes so as not to void your new citizenship!"
 
By now the US president is wielding powers more akin to absolute monarchs then someone part of a democratic system.
But I'm sure the Trumpers here will still maintain the US is the mostest free country in the world.
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
By now the US president is wielding powers more akin to absolute monarchs then someone part of a democratic system.
But I'm sure the Trumpers here will still maintain the US is the mostest free country in the world.
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Even while they are being rounded up and pushed into "delousing showers".
 
Andy_Ross said:
Federal agents blasted their way into an LA home where Jenny Ramirez lives with her boyfriend and two kids.

She heard the blast while checking on her 6-year-old, with her 1-year-old in her arms.

Ramirez says everyone in the home is a U.S. citizen.
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Well they were until Trump gets round to signing an EO that retroactively strips them of it and denounces them as gang members or mentally unbalanced.
 
What exactly happens if people flee from a state that has decided they are no longer citizens to one that does still follow the constitution? What if Trump then demands these citizens be handed over for deportation and the state in question tells him where to stick his EO?
 
Garrison said:
What exactly happens if people flee from a state that has decided they are no longer citizens to one that does still follow the constitution? What if Trump then demands these citizens be handed over for deportation and the state in question tells him where to stick his EO?
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Return of the Underground Railroad?
Civil War?
 
Blue Mountain said:
At the risk of carrying on a derail, many evangelical Christians are saddened and indeed horrified at the thought of many millions or even billions being rejected from God's presence at the final judgement, which is why they continue to, well, evangelize.

Within Christianity there seems to be a split between two camps: those who rejoice at the idea of sinners in the hands of an angry God, and those who are despondent that so many will suffer this very fate. The second group rejects the idea that God deliberately casts sinners into hell; their view is God reluctantly cannot allow unclean souls to enter his presence. Unfortunately the devil provides their only alternate resting place.

Having said that, the Bible provides a fair bit of evidence for the first view: "Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:15, New International Version)
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Thomas Aquinas -:


The blessed in the kingdom of heaven will see the punishments of the damned, in order that their bliss be more delightful for them.
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Safe-Keeper said:
I had to Google to confirm this. Mind blown.
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The main reason why Mrs Don chose to relinquish her US citizenship. After more than 30 years living and working in the UK she had to fill out a US tax return (which, due to its complexity, cost us well over £1k in accountancy fees every year) and pay US taxes on unrealised gains on UK tax free investments (which was sometimes tens of thousands in taxes).

It was only going to get more complex, and less comprehensible, as she got older.
 
US did not use bunker-buster bombs on one of Iran’s nuclear sites, top general tells lawmakers, citing depth of the target

The US military did not use bunker-buster bombs on one of Iran’s largest nuclear sites last weekend because the site is so deep that the bombs likely would not have been effective, the US’ top general told senators during a briefing on Thursday.

The comment by Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Dan Caine, which was described by three people who heard his remarks and a fourth who was briefed on them, is the first known explanation given for why the US military did not use the Massive Ordnance Penetrator bomb against the Isfahan site in central Iran. US officials believe Isfahan’s underground structures house nearly 60% of Iran’s enriched uranium stockpile, which Iran would need in order to ever produce a nuclear weapon.

US B2 bombers dropped over a dozen bunker-buster bombs on Iran’s Fordow and Natanz nuclear sites. But Isfahan was only struck by Tomahawk missiles launched from a US submarine.
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Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy told CNN on Thursday night after receiving the briefing that some of Iran’s capabilities “are so far underground that we can never reach them. So they have the ability to move a lot of what has been saved into areas where there’s no American bombing capacity that can reach it.”
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