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Trump's Second Term

Andy_Ross said:
Trump on Fox

"The day before I heard the word 'covid' or 'pandemic,' I had a meeting with political people and pollsters and they said, 'Sir, if George Washington and Abraham Lincoln got together and ran as president and VP, they couldn't beat you.'"

Baier: Kamala Harris got 75 million votes

Trump: Well, if you believe the whole thing. The whole thing is ridiculous.

"If the election weren't rigged, this would've never happened. And let's see whether or not Fox lets you put that in. Do you hear me? Rigged."

Trump: "Canada has a very big car industry. They stole it from it is."

"The Canadian citizens would have a much lower tax rate, they'd have much better medical, and they'd have military protection like nobody can have. You know, you have Russian ships all over the place.

"That's why Canada should be our 51st state ... essentially we're putting on a 25 percent tariff without exception on all aluminum and all steel."

"There's practically no building that's livable in the whole thing, in the whole Gaza strip. I say we go in, we knock 'em all down ... in the meantime, I would own this."
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"We demand Lebensraum!"
 
theprestige said:
Please elaborate. What threats?
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Oh. Maybe they don't look like threats from your perspective. I was thinking of his threat to use economic force against Canada. A trade war with 25% tariffs to remove the trade deficit, which he thinks will leave Canada's economy in ruins and make it non-viable as an independent country, if it won't voluntarily capitulate and become the 51st state.
 
theprestige said:
America demands nothing other than what every sovereign nation demands.
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Right now America is demanding territory from their allies. I don't see any other sovereign nations doing that.
theprestige said:
The waving of the missiles - and having the missiles to wave - is a big part of what keeps the worse bullies off your back.
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That was the argument when the USSR was the 'worst bully', now it's the argument when China is the 'worst bully'. Who's next?

The consistent thing is the US using their arsenal to get their way.
theprestige said:
Thanks to Trump, America will be waving less of its money around. Somehow that will also piss you off.
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No, that wouldn't piss me off. The US doing less 'we are richest so do what we say' to other nations would be a good thing, in my opinion.
theprestige said:
If you'd rather be bullied by China, just say so.
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My criticising the US for being a bully on the international stage doesn't mean that I want another nation to be a bully on the international stage. It means that I don't like bullies, and am addressing the subject in a thread about the current US president.
 
theprestige said:
Progressives: America was built by immigrants, you chud.

Also progressives: Only a chud would imagine that people would want to be part of America.
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You seems to think I doubt anyone wants to emigrate to America, which is odd and misses the point. Let's see if we can clarify: I appreciate that people can and do emigrate from their home country to other countries, including the US, and that's completely fine by me. My question was about Trump seeming to indicate that he believed a large proportion of the people of Greenland and Canada wanted their entire countries to become US territory. Do you think he actually believed that?
 
Andy_Ross said:
Trump: "We took over the Kennedy Center ... it's not gonna be woke. There's no more woke in this country. This woke has cost us a fortune and cost us our reputation."
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Is Trump going to shut down Mardi Gras? Mardi Gras celebrations have featured drag queens for decades.
 
Trump has announced a unilateral 25% tariff on all steel and aluminum being imported into the United States, on the pretext it will make the States rich once more.

What he doesn't realize is there are some types of steel that are simply not made in the States, so that amounts to an immediate 25% price increase on that steel. In addition, it will take the US some time to ramp up domestic production. The same is probobly true of aluminum.

My take is if Trump wants to use tariffs to improve American manufacturing, it should be done gradually: a few percent one year, a little more the next, with studies to determine if the tariffs are having the desired effect of increasing domestic production. The way he's doing it now merely makes life difficult for American business and antagonizes trade allies.
 
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AmyStrange said:
They're probably making sure their passports are with them every minute, and I'll bet a lot of them are being stolen, but that's just my opinion. Your mileage may vary of course.


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The thing is, Trump has declared war on the rest of the world. He was voted in. People cheer him at the football.

Trump wants to take over multiple countries. He is unilaterally ending a post WWII alliance of the rule of law.
 
Trump's new AG, Pam Bondi, ends FBI effort to combat foreign influence in US politics.
www.nbcnews.com

Pam Bondi ends FBI effort to combat foreign influence in U.S. politics

The order also curbs prosecutions of Americans who improperly lobby for foreign nations. President Donald Trump says Republicans were unfairly targeted in the past.
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In a little-noticed directive on her first day in office, Attorney General Pam Bondi ordered a halt to a years-old federal law enforcement effort to combat secret influence campaigns by China, Russia and other adversaries that try to curry favor and sow chaos in American politics.

Buried on the fourth page of one of 14 policy memos Bondi issued Wednesday, the order disbands the FBI’s Foreign Influence Task Force and pares back enforcement of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, despite years of warnings by U.S. intelligence agencies that foreign malign influence operations involving disinformation were a growing and dangerous threat.
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The memo; https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25514010-charging/ See page 4.

Russia agrees.
news-pravda.com

The U.S. Attorney General has disbanded the FBI's foreign influence division.

MOSCOW, February 9 - RIA Novosti. US Attorney General Pamela Bondi announced the liquidation of an operational group within the FBI to investigate foreign influence, including allegedly carried out by Russia and China, in order to use funds more...
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Why do the MAGA think that Trump and Bondi are not foreign agents?
 
Blue Mountain said:
Trump has announced a unilateral 25% tariff on all steel and aluminum being imported into the United States, on the pretext it will make the States rich once more.

What he doesn't realize is there are some types of steel that are simply not made in the States, so that amounts to an immediate 25% price increase on that steel. In addition, it will take the US some time to ramp up domestic production. The same is probobly true of aluminum.

My take is if Trump wants to use tariffs to improve American manufacturing, it should be done gradually: a few percent one year, a little more the next, with studies to determine if the tariffs are having the desired effect of increasing domestic production. The way he's doing it now merely makes life difficult for American business and antagonizes trade allies.
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Yes. Trump obviously hasn't studied world history. Doesn't get these kind of policies have been tried before and failed miserably.
 
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