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Trump's Second Term

dudalb said:
It has been only two weeks since the election.
Trump had not taken office yet.
You are buying into the Trump is invicible storyline.
And compusm seems to be anything that is not "We are doomed and there is nothgn we can do about it"
Or maybe you are just bitter that the American people are not as far to the left as you would like.
And this it is hopeles atittude helps nobody but Trump, Ever think about that?
I think that despair and pseesimis has been the trendy intellectual trend for along time can be very destructive.
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Here is your quote from last year.
"I think the US would be in a state of CIvil War within a year if Trump were to get in again."

And that's just one example. All of a sardine you're preaching about pessimism? It initially seemed odd to me until I remembered that your... ahem... occasional reference to the impending civil war isn't really pessimism, is it?
 
Tero said:
Activity to shut down various nonprofits, ACLU reports.
Currently, ACLU is worried about HR 9495

From the ACLU website, “This legislation would have granted the Secretary of Treasury the unilateral power to investigate and effectively shut down any tax-exempt organization — including news outlets, universities, and civil society groups — by stripping them of their tax-exempt status based on an unilateral accusation of wrongdoing.”

“The bill terminates the tax-exempt status of terrorist supporting organizations”
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How does this work in congress then? The Senate waits to January to pass and for Trump to sign it?
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Tom L. Wellborn (@tomwellborn3) on Threads

The Republican-controlled House passed H.R. 9495, granting Trump power to label nonprofits as "terrorist-supporting," stripping their tax-exempt status and crippling opposition groups like the ACLU or Planned Parenthood. Critics warn this authoritarian move weaponizes government to silence...
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trump has apparently selected emptyg to lead the DOGE subcommittee of the newly created Department of Government Efficiency to "eliminate government waste." She has apparently announced plans to target Dr. Anthony Fauci. emptyg has previously stated that Fauci "belongs in prison." Alexander Ocasio-Cortex expressed amazement at just the idea of greene being picked to head a subcommittee, describing greene as someone who "barely shows up and doesn’t do the reading."

"I come from a business background and have successfully run a construction company my entire adult life. In the private sector, if you're not doing a good job, you get fired," she wrote in a post on X on Thursday. Newsweek article link
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The inmates will be running the asylum. Only it's not funny, it's scary. America is in for a chaotic and turbulent four years.
 
a_unique_person said:
Lindsay Graham just sunk himself ever deeper into a hole of humiliation. Not content with people booing him at Trump rallies, he must have been one of the few senators publicly saying he would approve Gaetz without question.
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Back in 2015 Graham said that if Trump was nominated for President it would destroy the Republican party. He was right, but now here he is kissing Trump's ass. I'm guessing he fears being outed otherwise. Trump probably has Russian-provided Kompromat on a great many people.
 
Issues with Tulsi gabbard, security, patriotism, treason and all that come up. I am a little surprised that Trump has not come out and said that he cannot do treason against the USA because he now IS the USA.
 
alfaniner said:
I'm already tired of being lumped in with those MAGA morons. "America voted for him". No, nearly half of us didn't.
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That's how I felt last time. He wasn't "my" president then, and he's most assuredly not "my" president this time; he'll only be "the" president. I'm taking no responsibility for that POS being back in the WH. That dishonor belongs to those who put him there.
 
dudalb said:
Your assumption is that every trump VOtor is MAGA.

Everything I read says that is a false assumption. There are plenty of voters who saw him as the lesser ot two evils. Thy e made ahorrible mistake, yes, but they are not blind followers.
I know it is easy to demonize Trump votors, and the Hard Cor Magas deserve it.but let's get real.
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For some, being black, a woman, and/or a Democrat is worse than being a convicted felon, sexual abuser, pathological liar, malignant narcissist, serial adulterer, and a danger to democracy by trying to overturn a lawful election.
 
jt512 said:
Let me guess: You think it's Trump who is the threat to democracy.
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jt512 said:
Great argument.
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If you don't think repeatedly trying to overturn the results of a lawful election and fomenting an attack on our Capitol in order to do exactly that because he can't handle losing makes him a threat to our democracy, then there is no argument you'll ever accept.


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arthwollipot said:
Stacyhs just gave you one really good one, but there are dozens of others.
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Ya, off the top of my head I'd say:
1) Promising to use the Justice Dept to go after his political enemies
2) Promising extensive jail sentences for anyone he subjectively determines has threatened his reelection
3) Threatening th free press with lawsuits, shutdowns, licensee removals etc...calling them the "enemy of the people" (thanks, Hitler...)
4) Explicitly praising world dictators and expressing his wish to be like them
5) Threatening GA election officials with jail if they don't magically find him enough votes to win.
6) Saying the Constitution should be thrown out if it interferes with his subjective finding of unfair treatment.
I could go on but I think that's enough for now
 
arthwollipot said:
Stacyhs just gave you one really good one, but there are dozens of others.
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stanfr said:
Ya, off the top of my head I'd say:
1) Promising to use the Justice Dept to go after his political enemies
2) Promising extensive jail sentences for anyone he subjectively determines has threatened his reelection
3) Threatening th free press with lawsuits, shutdowns, licensee removals etc...calling them the "enemy of the people" (thanks, Hitler...)
4) Explicitly praising world dictators and expressing his wish to be like them
5) Threatening GA election officials with jail if they don't magically find him enough votes to win.
6) Saying the Constitution should be thrown out if it interferes with his subjective finding of unfair treatment.
I could go on but I think that's enough for now
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jt512 said:
Any argument would be nice.
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How many more would you like? What would convince you outside of Trump actually saying, "I'm a threat to our democracy"?
 
Stacyhs said:
How many more would you like? What would convince you outside of Trump actually saying, "I'm a threat to our democracy"?
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Even that wouldn't work because "he was only joking" and/or "judge him by his actions, not his words". :xrolleyes

Even if he actually suspended democracy in the US, the MAGA crowd would insist that he was doing it in order to protect democracy.
 
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