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Trump's Second Term

When's he gonna cut law enforcement loose for that one "really rough hour" so I can plan to be locked in a safe room?

He is so ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ nuts.
 
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Scott Bessent for treasury.

He has made it well known that he wants to extend tax cuts made in Mr Trump's first term in office.

He has also favours the use of import tariffs.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Scott Bessent for treasury.

He has made it well known that he wants to extend tax cuts made in Mr Trump's first term in office.

He has also favours the use of import tariffs.
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Those Republicans sure love a growing deficit.

Remember also when the GOP was the party of free trade and the Democrats were the ones demonstrating their lack of understanding of macroeconomics by proposing tariffs to allow inefficient and poor quality products to compete in the domestic market?
 
Pam Bondi will prosecute the prosecutors and investigate the investigators!

It is not the prosecutor that can be jailed or punished. The victim, Trump, can only take his case to court and be tried and found not guilty. Or he can sue the governmnet in a civil suit. The prosecutor will never pay anything or be put in jail. In current law. He can only be disbarred if found crooked.

But the general theme here is that Trump wants to now win the 2020 election as well.
 
Trump said he wants Marty Makary, a Johns Hopkins surgeon who argued against pandemic lockdowns saying the US would soon reach herd immunity, to lead the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

He will work under the leadership of RFK.

What could go wrong.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
He's already said this. Repeatedly. "I'll fix it so you don't have to vote again", anyone?
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To anyone who recognizes that Trump is mentally ill, it is pretty clear that he meant exactly what he said.
But to the cultist, cognitive dissonance and a desire to preserve one's worldview requires the following interpretation:

"well, he was just talking directly to a small subset of voters who found it difficult to get out to vote for him, so he was saying: 'if you just vote this one time, ill improve life for everyone so much that 99% of the electorate will continue to vote for me, thereby relieving you of the necessity to ever inconvenience yourself again by getting your fat butt out to vote--you can now stay home and eat Cheetos."

Of course, this is convoluted nonsense, so the only real question is whether Trump consciously words his threats and musings knowing that there is 'plausible deniability' or whether he just randomly babbles whatever is on his mind, knowing that his sycophants will clear up any craziness in the aftermath. It may be a mix of both.
 
stanfr said:
Of course, this is convoluted nonsense, so the only real question is whether Trump consciously words his threats and musings knowing that there is 'plausible deniability' or whether he just randomly babbles whatever is on his mind, knowing that his sycophants will clear up any craziness in the aftermath. It may be a mix of both.
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It's long been made clear by many around Trump that Trump uses mafia speak as a matter of course. He makes what he actually wants plenty clear while phrasing things in a way that leaves him at least some (im)plausible deniability.

To follow up with what you just said, though, Trump's history of "jokes" (that really obviously aren't) where he talked about being President for Life or matters related to such have conveyed his desire plenty well all along. It's indeed entirely plausible that he won't get his desire, even now, but when Trump apologists try to use the chance that he'll fail as if that made everything alright and humorous, they just show how utterly insane they're willing to (pretend to) be.
 
it's a hard-wired strategy for Trump, always going a step or ten further than anyone would find reasonable or sane, and then offer dialling it back in return for some concessions. It's what Trump Senior, Roy Cohn and Roger Stone taught him. This way, he gets more without having to give more.

The problem is that the GOP doesn't understand this, that pushing back is what is expected by Trump when he makes outrageous demands: they are the opening offer, to be dialled back in return for some consideration for him.
But when they just cave, Trump himself doesn't know what to do, as he expected to find resistance where there is none. And as long as he can push without pushback, that is what he will do - he can't help himself.
The topic is utterly irrelevant in this - it's a reflex.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
He's already said this. Repeatedly. "I'll fix it so you don't have to vote again", anyone?
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There are dozens of reasons that Trump and the current crop of republicans are a threat to America's democracy, all well documented for everyone to see, but this cherry-picked (and incorrect) quote is not one of them.

What makes this any different than when the MAGA crowd uses a cherry-picked quote from Obama "you didn't build that"?

When people talk about both sides, this is exactly the type of thing they are talking about. And before you accuse me of being a cultist, we are on the same side of the aisle here. When you have to resort to maga-style tactics to make your point, you make us all look bad.
 
LiteBright said:
There are dozens of reasons that Trump and the current crop of republicans are a threat to America's democracy, all well documented for everyone to see, but this cherry-picked (and incorrect) quote is not one of them.

What makes this any different than when the MAGA crowd uses a cherry-picked quote from Obama "you didn't build that"?

When people talk about both sides, this is exactly the type of thing they are talking about. And before you accuse me of being a cultist, we are on the same side of the aisle here. When you have to resort to maga-style tactics to make your point, you make us all look bad.
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Um, No. Read the last two responses carefully. This is not "cherry-picked' Of course there are examples when his language *is* cherry -picked to make him look bad, but this is not one of them. It is a *pattern* of speech that he repeatedly employs. There is no comparing this to Obama's out-of-context line. Obama doesn't have that history of 'joking' about being a monster. I don't think you are a cultist, I think you are mistaken. Even if you give Trump every benefit of the doubt in the context of his speeches, they are still motivated by sociopathic tendencies.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Scott Bessent for treasury.

He has made it well known that he wants to extend tax cuts made in Mr Trump's first term in office.

He has also favours the use of import tariffs.
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Doesn't he have a husband? Surprised the evangelicals will be happy with that...
 
The Great Cheesepuff is a threat to democracy, of course. But do his cultists actually mind? How many of them could define "democracy?" (Or "define," come to that?) They thrill at the idea of him destroying all those things and people that they sincerely hate.
 
Seb Gorka is his pick to be senior director for counterterrorism.
He was denied security clearance in the last Trump administration and has ties to a Nazi-allied organization in Hungary.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Seb Gorka is his pick to be senior director for counterterrorism.
He was denied security clearance in the last Trump administration and has ties to a Nazi-allied organization in Hungary.
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Gorka's advisor on his Ph.D. does not think that Gorka is an expert on terrorism From 2017:
"Gorka, a British-accented tough-talker who until Friday served under now-fired White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, considers himself an expert on the topic.

But that opinion is not shared by a dozen international security experts and scholars interviewed by CNN, including a professor who advised Gorka on his PhD dissertation and considers him a friend.

“I would not call him an expert on terrorism,” said Stephen Sloan, a retired professor of political science who spent much of his career at the University of Oklahoma. Though he said Gorka is “knowledgeable” about terrorism matters, “his level of expertise does not match the level where he stands in the White House.”

Sloan said Gorka “does a very good job being the bulldog, if you will, for the administration … but as an adviser, I have some discomfort.”

It’s Gorka’s ability to do battle with journalists, sources say, that has kept him in good standing with the President and out in front of the cameras."
 
Donald Trump Jr. says DOGE is planning to ditch the 7,000 page U.S. tax code and replace it with a flat tax. Also no capital gain tax for Cryptos made in the USA.
 
No super complicated tax code? That would put a LOT of people out of work, what like 1.2 million or more deal with it? Anyone have figures for how many tax prepares, accountants and lawyers are specialized in this?
 
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