Top 5 Reasons the Democrats Lost the Election

[thaiboxerken]

Shut up, Mike Griffith. Your dear leader won. There is no need to lie about the Democratic candidates anymore. We will all be under the rule of the First Felon and fElon Musk soon enough.

 

[Thermal]

Oh come on. Walz being an unpaid assistant coach really seals the deal here. We're talking important ◊◊◊◊ right there. Now let's go back to preparing for an out and out insurrectionist to be sworn in as president.

 

[Manopolus]

Of course, it didn't help matters that Walz was caught lying about his military record, his trips to Hong Kong, and his football coaching experience. In 2018, he referred to weapons that "I carried in war," when in fact he never carried a weapon in a war zone during his National Guard service--he was never in a war zone at all, not once. In 2005, he implied that he had been deployed to Afghanistan in 2003 as part of Operation Enduring Freedom, when in fact his deployment was to Italy--he never set foot in Afghanistan.

Walz told journalist Joshua Green, a liberal journalist who admires Walz, that in 2004 he confronted George W. Bush campaign staffers and asked “if they really wanted to arrest a command sergeant major who’d just returned from fighting the war on terrorism” (LINK). Walz never did any fighting and was never deployed to a war zone.

In 2004, Walz was photographed holding a sign that read, "Enduring Freedom Veterans for Kerry," which plainly implied, and which most people inferred, that Walz was saying he was a veteran of the war in Afghanistan. He was not. Again, Walz never got anywhere near a war zone, never carried a weapon in combat, and never saw any combat.

In 2009, Walz claimed he was in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989 and that he witnessed the killing of protestors by the Chinese army. He said he could "never forget" what he saw. Uh, only one problem: he was not in Hong Kong at that time (LINK). When he was confronted with the fact that he was not in Hong Kong on June 4, 1989, he said he "misspoke." Uh-huh. Yeah, you bet.

I should add that when Walz got wind that his National Guard unit might get deployed to Iraq, he quickly retired (LINK).

I should also add that Walz claimed he coached a high school football team to a state championship. He clearly and repeatedly gave the impression that he was the head coach, and leading Dems, including Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar, described Walz as the coach who turned a losing high school football team into a champion. Walz himself talked about having "some great coaches with me." He referred to himself as "Coach Walz." Etc., etc., etc. But, in point of fact, he was an unpaid assistant coach.

Sorry, but... only people completely brainwashed by Faux News into a mindset of complete enemy-centric reactionism ever paid any attention to Waltz. Seriously. There is absolutely nothing in the way of "lying" about anything that would make Trump look more appealing than Waltz to anybody with half a brain and a few scruples.

I mean seriously. Even if everything you're referring to is completely true, it still makes Waltz much less of a liar than Donald Trump... and in the running for a less important position. Trump may as well have "liar" tattooed on his forehead and even his most ardent supporters know it. They just don't care as long as it's their guy doing it.

Context is important. Nobody that could go either way (if there was such a person) cared about what Faux News and even worse had to say about Waltz. It's so unimportant that I'm not interested in fact checking it. To be perfectly blunt, it was likely more about turnout than changing minds, anyway. Basically, Harris didn't inspire enough people to actually vote... pretty sure she had the majority support, but they just didn't bother voting.

...which is the Achilles Heel of the party. It has WAY more casual supporters than it has actual voters. You can't win with this party unless you truly inspire people. Fear of the other party isn't enough on this side of the fence.

But in any case, you might as well be quoting the "Gossip Column" because I neither know nor care either way whether Waltz's backstory was exaggerated, and it's not likely I'd take your sources seriously if you bothered to mention them (you didn't). I'd even be willing to concede that an entire field of study exists that's all about making both your history and your actions seem more appealing than they probably should be (I think it's called PR in the business world, but politicians use it, too).

 

[Donal]

I have this book, where the main topic is to support things like ballot initiatives for change.
But in every chapter the authors outline and claim with data (references) that Americans are totally disgusted with politics.

https://www.amazon.com/Stealth-Democracy-Americans-Government-Psychology/dp/0521009863/

Of course, it didn't help matters that Walz was caught lying about his military record,

Not really. He may have misspoke. But its not like he went awol from the air national guard or anything

his trips to Hong Kong,

Again a silly detail he misremembered.

and his football coaching experience.

He in fact, did not.

In 2018, he referred to weapons that "I carried in war," when in fact he never carried a weapon in a war zone during his National Guard service--he was never in a war zone at all, not once. In 2005, he implied that he had been deployed to Afghanistan in 2003 as part of Operation Enduring Freedom, when in fact his deployment was to Italy--he never set foot in Afghanistan.

Walz told journalist Joshua Green, a liberal journalist who admires Walz, that in 2004 he confronted George W. Bush campaign staffers and asked “if they really wanted to arrest a command sergeant major who’d just returned from fighting the war on terrorism” (LINK). Walz never did any fighting and was never deployed to a war zone.

In 2004, Walz was photographed holding a sign that read, "Enduring Freedom Veterans for Kerry," which plainly implied, and which most people inferred, that Walz was saying he was a veteran of the war in Afghanistan. He was not. Again, Walz never got anywhere near a war zone, never carried a weapon in combat, and never saw any combat.

In 2009, Walz claimed he was in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989 and that he witnessed the killing of protestors by the Chinese army. He said he could "never forget" what he saw. Uh, only one problem: he was not in Hong Kong at that time (LINK). When he was confronted with the fact that he was not in Hong Kong on June 4, 1989, he said he "misspoke." Uh-huh. Yeah, you bet.

I should add that when Walz got wind that his National Guard unit might get deployed to Iraq, he quickly retired (LINK).

I should also add that Walz claimed he coached a high school football team to a state championship. He clearly and repeatedly gave the impression that he was the head coach, and leading Dems, including Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar, described Walz as the coach who turned a losing high school football team into a champion. Walz himself talked about having "some great coaches with me." He referred to himself as "Coach Walz." Etc., etc., etc. But, in point of fact, he was an unpaid assistant coach.

Where is the lie? The only lies I see are the ones you are regurgitating.

He didn't "quickly retire". His paper work had already been submitted and there was

So, you think lying disqualifies someone from office?

Really? With the ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ your weak daddy spreads?

And is being a defensive coordinator worse than being a rapist? Because your weak daddy is a rapist. Who led an insurrection.

 

[ponderingturtle]

The loss of female safe spaces would affect 50% of the population. You may not believe that would be the inevitable result of self ID, but for those that do it is a significant issue.

Which is why you vote for the guy who brags about barging into dressing rooms to catch beauty contestants in states of undress! Because that is expected and manly the thing that women love, like being forcibly groped. Women eat that up.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Wanna know why Harris lost? Just read the surreal woke denials in this thread. These folks won't admit anything.

As I've said before, hey, Wokies, I hope the Democratic Party listens to you even more than they did in the last election. You're absolutely right: Harris lost because she didn't go farther left. She wasn't woke enough. She should have said, "You're darn right I'll use taxpayer money to pay for transgender surgery for inmates, even though the law does not require it!" She should have added, "You're darn right I'll send us back to the Stone Age and collapse the economy by ending all fracking and oil drilling, and by outlawing non-electric vehicles!"

 

[The Great Zaganza]

You keep on saying that Harris should have been more like Trump, completely ignoring that people who want that just vote for Trump.

 

[Donal]

Yes, the candidate who marched around with Republicans like Liz Cheney should have moved further right.