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Top 5 Reasons the Democrats Lost the Election

mikegriffith1 said:
Oh, so now Bill Maher is not a liberal!!!
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In terms of the American political definition, he never was. He always called himself a libertarian.
mikegriffith1 said:
Wow, you gotta be bonkers woke to say such a thing.
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You wanna translate that into English?
mikegriffith1 said:
Let's see: Maher endorsed and voted for Harris. He still says Trump should have been removed from office. He endorsed and voted for Hillary in 2016, for Obama in 2008 and 2012, etc., etc. He actually stumped for Obama in 2012.
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So, at most, he's centrist
mikegriffith1 said:
Bill Maher is certainly a liberal. He's just not woke liberal. He's a liberal who is patriotic, who thinks America's founding was a noble and positive thing. He doesn't buy into the pro-Palestinian/pro-Hamas insanity and obscenity.
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He's a rich white guiy who likes his cocaine and really believes those disturbingly younger women are having sex with him because of his personality.

He just happens to side with Democrats about gay marriage and climate change. So long as he doesn't actually have to change his life, of course.
mikegriffith1 said:
He doesn't buy into the extreme transgender agenda, and he's in good company with many other mainstream liberals and moderate Democrats.
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You mean he buys into the hypocritical nonsense you do?
mikegriffith1 said:
So if you see some leftist claim that Bill Maher is not a liberal, you know that that leftist is a woke extremist, a radical liberal on the fringe of the political spectrum.
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Funny how he's acceptable to you because of the bigotry.
 
Tero said:
Just confirms the point of the article. Very little is reaching from the left side to the middle. Let alone the right. Maybe it was too many words for you?
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Not too many words, just too delusional.

You didn't really have to look very far to find propaganda in support of Kamala Harris. You couldn't really avoid it. I think the meltdown you linked is mostly happening because there has been a bit of loss of control of the narrative by the Democratic party.
 
Probably been said already but:

"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat." -Will Rodgers

Some things never change.
 
Pixel42 said:
What policies were those? And what caused the steep cost-of-living hikes that occurred at the same time in countries run by right wing politicians with very different policies?
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Don't you know that Biden's policies were followed by the rest of the world that also suffered post-Covid inflation and, in many of the G20 countries, was even higher?
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At this point I'm almost convinced the Democrats did nothing wrong. They were just injected into a different timeline by a cruel and unusual wizard.

Stacyhs, is Harambe still alive, where you come from?
 
arthwollipot said:
Thank you. I didn't see the first time you posted it. You should post attribution each time you use someone else's content.
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The blueprint article just shows that most voters are ignorant of reality. This is because the GOP has built up, over the last 20 years or more, a media infrastructure that is a giant echo chamber. Democrats are late to the game on this and, likely, will not be able to catch up. Also, the propoganda machine for The Party is only going to get stronger as Trump restricts media and goes after outlets that do not support The Party.
 
I think we need to expand the definition of "work" to include "unable to admit mistakes or errors."

True, there was not really time to hold another primary, but the Dems certainly could have held an open convention to let other candidates compete for the nomination. However, Biden ruined any chance of an open convention by foolishly endorsing Harris at the same time he dropped out. Harris was a total flop in the 2020 primary, yet Biden chose her as his VP nominee anyway. Yet, he was under no obligation or precedent to endorse her when he dropped out.

And, BTW, with 99.7% of the votes counted, Trump has won the popular vote 50% to 48.4%, 76.9 million to 74.4 million. Dems endlessly harped on the fact that Gore won the popular vote by 540,000 in the 2000 election, as if this made Bush an illegitimate president. Yet, Trump won the popular vote by 2.5 million.
 
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I think we need to expand the definition of "work" to include "unable to admit mistakes or errors."
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"Work" should be "woke."

It is amazing to see how many people argue that Harris lost because she did not run far enough to the left but tried to posture as center-left. Wow. First of all, she ran as a woke liberal on several issues. She only pretended to be center-left on a few issues. Republicans did a good job of exposing her far-left record.

I suspect she would have lost by a much larger margin if she hadn't been running against Trump. As it is, she lost the Electoral College 312-226 and lost the popular vote by 2.3 million votes. She won only on 19 states to Trump's 31 states.
 
Stacyhs said:
Don't you know that Biden's policies were followed by the rest of the world that also suffered post-Covid inflation and, in many of the G20 countries, was even higher?
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No, the majority of voters did not know that.

This is where Democrats fell down. They assumed that because they knew it, everybody else did too. What they should have done was get economic experts to tell us what would have happened if Trump had been president for the past 4 years.

We should have been constantly reminded about how Biden moved Heaven and Earth to stomp down the runaway inflation Trump's actions had set us up for - not just in campaign adverts but also interviews, documentaries and magazine articles. They should have plastered the airways with charts showing how quickly Biden got inflation back down to pre-covid levels - with another scary line showing where we would have been under Trump.

Then they should have made a projection for the next 4 years, showing what a disastar Trump's policies would be and ramming home the message that only Biden/Harris can keep the economy on track. And they wouldn't even have to lie about it!

That's what they should have spent all their campaign funds on, not holding rallies for the faithful.

The most pathetic part is that even Fox News and the Wall Strret Journal were (belately) praising Biden for his work on the enonomy. And Democrats pissed it away, no doubt thinking that acknowledgement was enough. IOW, they grossly overestimated the brain power of the voters they needed to get onboard - unlike Trump, who 'understands' them well (for the purposes of manipulatiing them).
 
mikegriffith1 said:
"Work" should be "woke."

It is amazing to see how many people argue that Harris lost because she did not run far enough to the left but tried to posture as center-left. Wow. First of all, she ran as a woke liberal on several issues. She only pretended to be center-left on a few issues. Republicans did a good job of exposing her far-left record.
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It's not amazing. You don't seem to appreciate just how far to the right US politics is. Most other western countries, even my own with its current 'anti-woke' libertarian right wing government, is way to the left of yours on most issues.

The majority of liberals posting here are to the left of Harris and Biden. Many of them complained that Biden wasn't left enough in 2020, and were even more sure of it this year. The proximate reason Harris lost was that she didn't get enough liberal votes, and they weren't holding back because she was too liberal - quite the opposite in fact. Some say Bernie Sanders - who borders on being communist - would have been a better choice. Having seen how Harris performed I'm inclined to agree.

Whether Republicans did or didn't do a 'good job' of exposing her 'far-left' record is irrelevant - people weren't voting on those issues. Top of the list was inflation, and next down immigration. IOW it was all about jobs and the economy. If only Democrats had gotten the message out on how well they were handling that they might have won (not that it would be much of victory when nearly half the country is under Trump's spell).
 
Roger Ramjets said:
It's not amazing. You don't seem to appreciate just how far to the right US politics is. Most other western countries, even my own with its current 'anti-woke' libertarian right wing government, is way to the left of yours on most issues.
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And none of you people from the other western countries pause to think why that might be, just moan that it is. Did it ever occur to you that we have to be the serious ones about spending money on defense, because we have effectively been delegated the role of the world's policeman? That because we have to spend so much on defense, we can't afford the generous social benefits you consider the primary responsibility of your government.
 
i'm having trouble squaring up the idea that woke leftist policy is unpopular, yet most of the country seems to be somewhere between pretty ok to genuinely happy with a health insurance ceo being gunned down in the street
 
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Random said:
2.) Harris was never a "Border Czar". Please stop watching Fox News.
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Uh, yes, she most certainly was. Maybe you should start watching Fox News. The Associated Press (AP), hardly a right-wing news source, said the following about Biden's appointment of Harris to handle the border and immigration:

President Joe Biden has tapped Vice President Kamala Harris to lead the White House effort to tackle the migration challenge at the U.S. southern border and work with Central American nations to address root causes of the problem. (https://apnews.com/general-news-3400f56255e000547d1ca3ce1aa6b8e9)
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When Biden put her in charge of handling the immigration at the southern border, he specifically said she would be "leading the effort." Now, if that didn't make her the border czar, what would? I mean, the president publicly named her to "lead the White House effort to tackle the migration challenge at the U.S. southern border." So nick-naming her "the border czar" is entirely fair and reasonable.

Politico, another non-right-wing source, headlined their article on Harris's appoint as follows:

Biden makes Harris the point person on immigration issues amid border surge

And then said this:

Vice President Kamala Harris will be the White House’s point person on immigration issues at the nation’s southern border, President Joe Biden announced Wednesday, tasking her with stemming the rising tide of migrants, many of them unaccompanied children, arriving in the U.S. (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/24/kamala-harris-immigration-border-surge-477810)
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Everybody at the time understood that Biden was delegating to Harris the job of tackling border security and other immigration issues. By any honest, rational measurement, she not only failed miserably, she was basically AWOL. She did nothing about border security because, being a woke leftist, she believes anyone who wants to cross our border and enter our country should be able to do so if they're fleeing poverty and/or political oppression, even if they enter illegally. But she would never dare voice that view because she knows that the vast majority of Americans reject it. Most Americans are fine with orderly, responsible legal immigration but oppose illegal immigration.

 
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She stopped being the border czar the minute the Republicans started calling her that. Of course, when she was initially given the assignment, the media was calling her the border czar, because that's effectively what Biden tried to saddle her with. My personal favorite of the border czar gaslighting is the one by Axios:

In the past few days, the Trump campaign and Republicans have tagged Harris repeatedly with the "border czar" title — which she never actually had.
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Oh, look there's no such title! Unfortunately, Axios is forced to admit that back when she got the assignment, they "contributed to the confusion."

Why it matters: The number of unaccompanied minors crossing the border has reached crisis levels. Harris, appointed by Biden as border czar, said she would be looking at the "root causes" that drive migration.
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I don't mind saying that given Kamala that job was dirty pool on Biden's part; they effectively gave her the responsibility but none of the authority to change the "catch and release" policy.
 
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