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Told off by Sentinal...

Oh as for the statement about the other fire personnel know and hearing the explosions,well, a simple search of the web will get you all the proof you need.

As for me, I was there. Thats alot more than what I can say about most of you.



Sentinel
 
Sentinel said:
One of the main organizations, who also had been involved,
was KeySpan, formerly Brooklyn Union Gas, as mentioned within this brochure on Page 3, as i recall.
I found a confirmation of their "involvement" also here:

http://web.archive.org/web/19990221102818/http://www.marketspancorp.com/about/y2k.htm
KeySpan Energy's Year 2000 Program,
Year 2000 Readiness Disclosures


Isaac pointed on the cover of this brochure and asked for confirmations of sun/shadow experts.
He thinks, that the shadow which you see in the middle of the North Tower is an artificial constructed shadow from the Woolworth Building, possibly forced by a backlight projection.

Isaac might explain this better and i would like to forward his personal notes ASAP.


He thinks, that this could imply a symbolical "announcement" of the "attack" on the North Tower 9 months later, but possibly also could have been a test drive for a positioning of the bomb system.


I replied, that critics could downplay this as a photoshopped "dramatization" without any further reason.
Therefore he also suggested to add more files...


File 2:
http://img17.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img17&image=wtcpostcardcollection9cc.jpg

A collection of WTC-postcards to make the point, that this shadow on the North Tower (as seen on the brochure -and not manipulated from us) was impossible.
(Jean, our photographer in this group, might add now more clues)
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I can't actually see the shadow you're referring to, so I think maybe you're hallucinating or something...

However, I can tell you that you're utterly mad. Do you have ANY Idea how much light would be required to cast a visible shadow on an entire skyscraper in broad daylight?

The most powerful standard lights we use in the film industry are the ARRI Daylight 18/12 (18Kw or 12Kw HMI) and ARRI Studio T24 (24Kw Tungsten Fresnel).

The T24 puts out 11,500 lux in a 4.9m circle at 20m distance on full spot (14 degree beam).
The 18/12 (on 18Kw) puts out 15,500 lux in a 3.9m diameter circle at 20m distance on full spot (11 degree beam).

In comparison, on a typical sunny day, the sun puts out between 32,000 and 100,000 lux (a minimum of 2 or 3 times the illuminance of these film lights).

I can't even fathom the number of lights required to light the area you're talking about, and even if they did the sunlight would make the shadows almost invisible.

-Gumboot
 
maccy said:
I've reported this personal attack.
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Thanks. Funny, I haven't seen Mr. Isaac once on a Saturday at Ground Zero, even when he said he was going to be there. Come on, Paul, you can tell the NY911truth people to take your quote out of their literature, like you said you would. How about it?

ETA: looks like the mods removed Sentinel's nasty post. Is that an appropriate action when the title of the thread is "Told off by Sentinel?" :)
 
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See anything wrong yet, folks?
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There is this:

Sentinel said:
Yet, all the planes on 9-11 made it to their destination on point.
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United 93 didn't.

Sentinel said:
P.s. The US always helped the communist during the cold war but made its citizens believe they were the Boogeymen.
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Sentinel said:
Example #1: The US Gave assistance to the Viet Nim who was headed by Ho Chi Men (A communist)
Why?
To get the Former Japanese and Vicci french (Nazi collaborators) out of indo china. Then We sent 58.000+ American fighters to their deaths so Capitalism could merge with Communism.
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58,000 American fighters and 2 million Vietnamese. This is "helping" Communism? Never heard of Vicci french, do they make overpriced handbags? The US was at war with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, and their allies (including the Vichy). And I suppose nothing happened between 1945 and 1964 to maybe change policies toward the USSR and PRC? Like a nuclear arms race with the former and the creation of the latter?

Sentinel said:
Example#2 The Yogoslav partisans (tito) was given assistance so he could maintain hostilities against the Nazis
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Again - war with the Nazis. You're missing the main one - the US supported the USSR directly in WW2 with Lend-Lease: vehicles, airplanes, tanks, uniforms, etc. You ignore the possibility of policy shifts.

Sentinel said:
The Carter Administration had GWB (The Father) heading the Mujahadin fighters in afganistan with good old (Tim Ossman). Then for some unknown reason GWB left the CIA to become Veep. This of course was shortly after the Iran Hostage crisis which mysteriously came to an end under the Reagan administration. The GWB seemed to be in colaboration with the Hinckly family which mysteriously were having dinner with Niel Bush( Mr savings and loans BCCI) the night before Reagan was shot.
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The Mujahideen were formed under Reagan, not Carter. The Iranian Hostage Crisis came to an end (not very mysteriously, actually) very soon after Reagan took office because, in at least a small part, the Iranians saw him as a cowboy who might actually launch a missile or two.

Sentinel said:
The first WTC attack and its little fiasco with the investigations
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You're too clever for me - what fiasco?

Sentinel said:
The We have the OKC Bombing and all the official reports reporting the extra "Nooks and crannies"
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What "extra 'Nooks and crannies'"?

Sentinel said:
Now we have a failure to arrest congressmen for hitting on our children.
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He has to be charged with a crime first:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/01/AR2006100100644.html
 
Sentinel said:
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Spooks and Kooks

Thats all it boils down to.



Sentinel
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Jabs and Hobabs

It's a total piece of cake.

delphi_ote
 
To quote Pink Floyd...

Crazy,
Toys in the attic I am crazy,
Truly gone fishing.
They must have taken my marbles away.
Crazy, toys in the attic he is crazy.

...

Crazy,
Over the rainbow, I am crazy,
Bars in the window.
There must have been a door there in the wall
When I came in.
Crazy, over the rainbow, he is crazy.

-Gumboot
 
I have no idea who this 'sentinel' person is.

If he was somehow caught up in the events of 9/11 and is suffering from PTSD or similar, then that's very sad - seek help

If he's just another lonely person with an overactive imagination then that is also sad - get a life
 
This used to an amusing thread about the evil of Major League Baseball. What happened to that? Maybe I missed the point...
 
"You've Come a Long Way, Baby"

In 1950, Citibank had $23 million in gold bars sitting in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. But they had a slight problem. The bars had these nasty looking swastikas emblazoned on them. Worse yet, gold taken from Holocaust victims, politely referred to by historians as "non-monetary gold," was contained in the bars. Perplexed as to what to do, Citibank turned to the U.S. Treasury Department who came up with the simple solution of melting the gold, or "purifying" it, and recasting it with the fine words, "United States of America," emblazzened on them. They described this, using a nicely sanitized verb, as a "reissue." And how does Citibank explain how their firm could have trafficked in Nazi gold? According to spokesman Jack Morris, "This all happened in an era when there wasn't as much introspection about this kind of transaction." I mean, where would we be without the new improved introspection on Wall Street today? (NYT 11/2)
 
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• New Mets ballpark overview
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NEW YORK -- The name of the Mets' new home ballpark will be Shea no more, come 2009. The successor to Shea, the club's home since 1964, is to be named CitiField, according to several newspapers and Internet reports. The name comes from CitiCorp, Inc., the biggest bank in the nation, according to reports which put the value of the naming rights at as much as $20 million annually.
The Mets declined to comment on the reports.

One report said that the deal would be the most lucrative stadium-rights agreement ever, in terms of revenue per year, exceeding the 32-year, $300 million contract between the Houston Texans of the NFL and Reliant Energy Inc. None of the reports established the length of the contract.

Formal announcement of the name is expected to come Monday at the site of the new park, adjacent to Shea Stadium, during official groundbreaking ceremonies. Work at the site began months ago.

The Mets are to play two more seasons at Shea before their first game at CitiField, a 45,000-seat facility reminiscent of Ebbets Field, home of the Brooklyn Superbas and Dodgers from 1913-57, and the ballpark Mets owner Fred Wilpon embraced as a child.

Citigroup was the lead underwriter when the Mets sold $613 million in bonds earlier this year to help finance construction of the stadium.

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Snitch ?

You little glorified hotdog dealer started with the character assasination without even the commen curtesy of reaching me first. hes' a little girl who has to have people snitch for him.

Wow, what a man.


I'll be there this saturday for sure. I keep it real for the people and I'm definately going to keep it real for you terror eh eh Tourism AGENT.

Hey. Greasy "Would you like some mustard on that dog, sir.

I blew the board apart and even a ape will see that.

I gave you depth width and height. The tower came down in a DRXS Fashion demo job then the Bannana split peel. Did anyone notice the twist where the central core was? No, Go check the tape and watch the South Tower "spin" Counter Clock wise and watch the North Tower "Spin" Clock wise, thats why the DOT was ready with all the dump trucks that same night.

It's called Depraved Indefference to Human Life MURDER !!!


So go call a cop, stupid !

Sentinel

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Sentinel said:
You little glorified hotdog dealer started with the character assasination without even the commen curtesy of reaching me first. hes' a little girl who has to have people snitch for him.

Wow, what a man.


I'll be there this saturday for sure. I keep it real for the people and I'm definately going to keep it real for you terror eh eh Tourism AGENT.

Hey. Greasy "Would you like some mustard on that dog, sir.

I blew the board apart and even a ape will see that.

I gave you depth width and height. The tower came down in a DRXS Fashion demo job then the Bannana split peel. Did anyone notice the twist where the central core was? No, Go check the tape and watch the South Tower "spin" Counter Clock wise and watch the North Tower "Spin" Clock wise, thats why the DOT was ready with all the dump trucks that same night.

It's called Depraved Indefference to Human Life MURDER !!!


So go call a cop, stupid !

Sentinel
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Indeed. The Yankees suck.
 
Even on a forum where we have threads dedicated to topics like Christophera's delusions and TS1234's ever-evolving stream of insanity, this is definitely the most mind-boggling thing I've seen yet. :boggled:
 
Sentinel said:
You little glorified hotdog dealer started with the character assasination without even the commen curtesy of reaching me first. hes' a little girl who has to have people snitch for him.
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I have reported the post above as I believe it serves no purpose other than to attack another forum member, which I personally feel is unacceptable.

-Gumboot
 
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