Time stamped prediction

[Thanz]

Re: Re: Re: Time stamped prediction

So he would have needed to extend his claim from RV through prescience and onto mind control? No wonder he left the JREF board.

No, no mind control needed. Obviously, those in the know saw Lucianarchy's post, and in awe of Luci's powers practiced extra vigilence to prevent the horrific attack.

Luci's powers have saved us all!

 

[BillHoyt]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Time stamped prediction

No, no mind control needed. Obviously, those in the know saw Lucianarchy's post, and in awe of Luci's powers practiced extra vigilence to prevent the horrific attack.

Luci's powers have saved us all!

All hail Luci!

 

[BillHoyt]

Alas, Luci has left the JREF board! sic transit gloria luci

 

[Drooper]

Alas, Luci has left the JREF board! sic transit gloria luci

Strangely, he also seemed to have legged it from the FT board once his RV claims came under challenge.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Actually, I think Luci is claiming an attack in Iraq as his predicted event. Looking at the fortean thread, I don't recall seeing ANY doubts about Luci's prediction or superpowers.

What is a sceptic without doubt? A believer.

 

[El Greco]

Actually there are 1-2 posters in the Fortean boards who have read this thread and have discredited Luci's prediction powers. But noone seems to even answer their posts, since there are a couple of big time idiots over there who monopolize the discussion.

 

[Ersby]

I have to agree. Claus has let himself be sidetracked into any number of unimportant tiffs and thus the main topic has been forgotten. Poor show.

 

[CFLarsen]

I have to agree. Claus has let himself be sidetracked into any number of unimportant tiffs and thus the main topic has been forgotten. Poor show.

I am not particularly satisfied myself...even though it was kinda funny the way Lucianarchy demanded evidence of his gender, and then asked that no such information would be sought.

Let's see if people want to discuss whether Lucianarchy has paranormal powers or not. Strangely, a "fortean" apparently does not seek evidence either way, so I wonder why they are there in the first place.

Hm.

 

[Darat]

I have to agree. Claus has let himself be sidetracked into any number of unimportant tiffs and thus the main topic has been forgotten. Poor show.

I agree that the side tracking is annoying however I'm very surprised people on the FTMB have not noticed the contradiction that they've created.

The Big Liar is saying that Claus must show his proof of its gender or retract his claim about its gender, but Claus has now been told if he does so he will be banned...

I just love it when one attacker quotes forum rules about rudeness and personal attacks and ignores the name calling on the "regulars" side. (I may have missed it but I didn't notice any insults being flung by Claus at the FTMB regulars.)

As an aside and because it seems to be mentioned quite a few times a personal opinion about the "tone" of Claus's posts.

Claus's tone is very direct and can seem abrasive but I also know, after working with many Danes for many years, what can seem very direct and abrasive to British ears is quite often just the normal tone of a plain speaking Dane. (Note: I'm not saying that that Claus isn't quite capable of being rude, obnoxious and abrasive at times )

 

[Ersby]

Claus's tone is very direct and can seem abrasive but I also know, after working with many Danes for many years, what can seem very direct and abrasive to British ears is quite often just the normal tone of a plain speaking Dane.

I hadn't thought of that. I used to know a Danish lady, and although she was very sweet and all, you still got the impression that she was slightly annoyed about something.

Meanwhile, I'm a little disappointed at the FTMB. The Fortean Times is, in the UK, the only source of skepticism easily available, and its Fortean Studies books are quite excellent. I hope the "It happened to me" board has a fluffier set of rules than the rest of the forums since it's based on personal experience and all that.

As it turns out, I can't register anyway.

 

[CFLarsen]

Tsk, tsk....I was just banned.

Try to guess the reason...

 

[Dragonrock]

I am not particularly satisfied myself...even though it was kinda funny the way Lucianarchy demanded evidence of his gender, and then asked that no such information would be sought.

Let's see if people want to discuss whether Lucianarchy has paranormal powers or not. Strangely, a "fortean" apparently does not seek evidence either way, so I wonder why they are there in the first place.

Hm.

I say we hijack this thread and change it's subject to be the study of Luci's sex or lack thereof.

Also, as a side note, I find myself pronouncing his/her name as "Loochy" and not "Loosy". I'm not sure why I added an invisible H but I did.

 

[Undodog]

Try to guess the reason

Was it because you didn't provide evidence that there is no evidence of Luci's claims?

Ah well, Luci is alot happier among those Fortean sceptics with 'open minds' that are trying to help him/her/it fit the attacks to the vision.

"why did you spend so much time and energy with those tw*ts at the Randi board? We're much nicer."
Hmm, clearly.

 

[CFLarsen]

Was it because you didn't provide evidence that there is no evidence of Luci's claims?

Well, that may be the real reason, but not the official one.

Officially, I was banned for asking Lucianarchy's gender. But after I had been warned not to do so, I never asked Lucianarchy for his gender again.

I simply did a recap of the situation, and concluded that it was an unresolved matter. And got banned, because I had agreed "not to pursue this matter any further in any way".

This is not correct. The moderator had warned me not to ask Lucianarchy for his gender again, which I didn't do after that. I was not warned never to mention the contradiction again.

Strange....

 

[JamesM]

That's a shame. I thought you were doing pretty well there for a while, Claus.

 

[JamesM]

This is not correct. The moderator had warned me not to ask Lucianarchy for his gender again, which I didn't do after that. I was not warned never to mention the contradiction again.

Strange....

Oh come on, Claus. Personally, I thought it was pretty obvious what you were being asked not to do. It broke the spirit - if not the exact word - of the warning.

 

[Darat]

Oh come on, Claus. Personally, I thought it was pretty obvious what you were being asked not to do. It broke the spirit - if not the exact word - of the warning.

But isn't it strange that the Big Liar wasn't at least warned for this?:

...snip...

The reason why I asked for evidence is because I believe it is risky to self disclose gender on an internet forum such as this. It is also completely irrelevant, but that's beside the point. I have never, repeat, never disclosed my gender on the internet. If SR has any evidence at all, I would like to see it as he is implying that I am a liar. If it has been forged, then I most definately want to see it. Such provision does not affect the issue of the self-disclosure of my gender.

...snip...

Which came after the post from their moderator warning Claus of a banning and after Claus had said "Very well, then".

So it appears it is fine for the Big Liar to bring up the matter, even though regulars seem to think it wasn't!:

...snip...

Should be clear enough to SkepticReport and Lucianarchy.

No speculation as to the identity of others and no flaming, or provocation of others, either.

This isn't about any individual members. It's the rules, Message Board Policy.

And, the Moderator's decision has to be respected.

...snip...

Looking through the thread, after the warning I guess it wasn't provocative for the Big Liar to repeatedly bring up the subject that Claus was told he would be banned for if he "badgered" the Big Liar with again. Hmmm....

Have to admit I hadn’t looked at the FTMB for quite awhile and started to look at it when it was mentioned in this thread. At first I thought it looked interesting. But after seeing how they treat newcomers who don’t “sing from the same hymn sheet” I don’t think I’ll bother, never seen so much hostility with no cause.

 

[ceptimus]

But after seeing how they treat newcomers who don’t “sing from the same hymn sheet” I don’t think I’ll bother, never seen so much hostility with no cause.

I think they have exactly the same view about 'our' JREF forum. And they may even have a point...

We do tend to beat up a bit on 'believer' newbies. I think that is a bad thing, personally.

 

[El Greco]

I think they have exactly the same view about 'our' JREF forum. And they may even have a point...

We do tend to beat up a bit on 'believer' newbies. I think that is a bad thing, personally.

They are never banned though. Never.

 

[JamesM]

But isn't it strange that the Big Liar wasn't at least warned for this?

Not to me, really. Claus was gunning for Lucianarchy from the get-go. You can debate whether he's rude or just direct or whatever (and I've been called impolite there, too), but the only threads anyone's likely to have read about this place are this one and the ladybrook one, two rather aggressive examples.

Then up pops Claus on the FTMB and makes his usual - ahem - no nonsense posts. What are they going to think? Luci has been perfectly even-tempered (for the most part) on the FTMB. And Luci takes part in the discussions, Claus looked like he was just there to have a go at Luci. They were bound to circle the wagons and get all defensive. I couldn't imagine any other possible outcome.

If Claus's aim was to let Luci know he didn't think much of the prediction, fair enough, mission accomplished. If it was to have a discussion about skepticism, or to promote a bit of critical thinking about Luci's supposed skills, I'm sorry, it was a miserable failure.

never seen so much hostility with no cause.

They say exactly the same thing about here!

I suggest refraining from making a judgement about the forum based on one thread and the participation of one skeptic, who appeared, on occasion - rightly or wrongly - to be trolling somewhat.