Time stamped prediction

CFLarsen said:
I wasn't allowed to. Lucianarchy demanded that I showed evidence of his gender, while at the same time insisting that evidence of his gender was not revealed. Go figure.
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I mean early on. After LA asked you for your evidence but before the moderator said LA sent him a PM (second post down). Granted, there's only a time span of two and a half hours between those posts, but you made four posts between those two times - so it should have been plenty of time to present your reasons.

My point is that there is a difference between what LA wanted you to reveal, and what LA wanted to reveal himself. He wasn't insisting that evidence of his gender not be revealed; he was merely insisting that he not be required to provide it himself. The mod said "Lucianarchy does not wish to reveal that information", not "Lucianarchy does not wish that information revealed". Meaning that if someone else did it, that it would be okay.




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At least we can all agree that the Big L is the Big Liar can’t we?

Two boards I've now seen it post on and it has been caught out lying on both of them within a short time of starting to post. (Interesting point - it even lied the very first time it posted about its prediction i.e. "Whilst I was still a member of the JREF Forum,...." . The Big Liar was and still is a member here.)

One board has banned him for it one hasn’t; I’ll even allow myself the luxury of a “mores the pity”.


PS Wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t use the “baseless accusations” posted here about it as the reason why it “has to” start posting here again, “just to put the record straight”.
 
Beleth,

Nope, sorry, you are wrong. Nobody is allowed to ask for gender at FTMB. I did not know that, and after I was made aware of it, I never once asked for Lucianarchy's gender again.

Still, I was temporarily banned for that reason.
 
geni said:



I think Eos has the same problem.
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Thanks. I don't know why I would be banned since I had never been to the site before.
But try as they might, that didn't stop me from getting in to read the thread. Those mods sure enjoy their little power trips.
 
Darat said:
PS Wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t use the “baseless accusations” posted here about it as the reason why it “has to” start posting here again, “just to put the record straight”.
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Oh, Big Liar is at it again:

I claim that I am able to replicate (mild) rv/telepathy/psi effect/ whatever.

The significance is presented as highly significant percentage descriptors against non descriptors.

I demonstrated this 'on-line' with a series of examples starting at the JREF, the best place to start.
Source
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He then claims that he was banned from FTMB because of this, as well as a lot of other lies.

This guy truly lives in a different universe.
 
CFLarsen said:
Beleth,

Nope, sorry, you are wrong. Nobody is allowed to ask for gender at FTMB. I did not know that, and after I was made aware of it, I never once asked for Lucianarchy's gender again.
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Nope, sorry, I'm not. This is understandably personal to you, and I believe you are missing my point because of it.

There is a difference between the question LA was asking you, and the question you think LA was asking you.

He was asking you "Why do you believe I am male?"

You think he was asking "Am I male?"

Now, yes, the correct response to the question you thought he was asking you is the return question "Why don't you tell me?", which is what you asked, and which is why I am sure you misinterpreted his question.

As I said before, the correct answer to his real question would be to provide the reasons you believe he is male. His writing style, perhaps, or evidence that can be found in his personal profile on this board or the Fortean board. Something like that.

Still, I was temporarily banned for that reason.
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Actually, AFAICT, you were banned for bringing up a subject after you had assured a moderator that you wouldn't.


Having said all this...
I have to point out that the FTMB policy about not providing personal information is incredibly restrictive. What information about a person could be less informative than their gender? Okay, now the pool of potential people LA could be has shrunk from six billion people to three billion people. Ooo aah, now I can surely pick him out of a crowd.

I am reminded of a cartoon I saw earlier today.
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My own 2c...

I think CFLarsen did not make the best impression he could have... I was reading it as a JREF fan, and myself kept wincing at his choice of words... not to knock your accuracy or your intentions, CFLarsen...

That said, I think that the treatment on that board is not at all representative of typical treatment on "woo-woo" boards. I myself was banned several times from a board after some very polite questioning, and being banned, and then very politely questioning how I could avoid being banned, and being banned again without a response.

I think there are some readers there that will listen to what we have to say--they seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of JREF skeptics... that we have some internal need not to believe things regardless of the evidence... if we can keep it rational, we may change their impression of us, and then who knows what they might learn from us?

On the other hand, it's just possible some of us might learn from some of them.
 
gnome said:
I think there are some readers there that will listen to what we have to say--they seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of JREF skeptics... that we have some internal need not to believe things regardless of the evidence... [/B]
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After making over 8000 posts on here in addition to reading fairly extensively on various alleged paranormal phenomena, and, whether on here or elsewhere, reading the skeptical responses, I think that I can safely say that there definitely is indeed some internal need amongst skeptics to simply a prior reject all evidence and to poo poo all reasoning which challenge their beliefs.

No fundamental misunderstanding here.

I'm not trying to start an argument here; this is my definite impression. Nor am I saying that we should necessarily embrace a number of paranormal phenomena. I simply state that I am quite convinced that there is a substantial emotional element present when skeptics pontificate on this topic. This is quite clear in their extreme utterances which demonstrably are not commensurate with the facts.

From a psychological perspective it is most fascinating.
 
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I am reminded of a cartoon I saw earlier today.
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Very funny yet very true!
Many people use different handles on different boards for the purpose of hiding what d**kwads they have been on others boards. Futile, as their true nature always shines thru!
 
Interesting Ian said:
From a psychological perspective it is most fascinating.
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As is why you thought the prediction would fail. As I said I was pretty sure it would suceed.
 
Interesting Ian said:
After making over 8000 posts on here in addition to reading fairly extensively on various alleged paranormal phenomena, and, whether on here or elsewhere, reading the skeptical responses, I think that I can safely say that there definitely is indeed some internal need amongst skeptics to simply a prior reject all evidence and to poo poo all reasoning which challenge their beliefs.
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I don't think you can safely say that at all... I find that in most cases when evidence is presented and rejected, it is rejected for a reason, not just because the person doesn't want it to be true.

If we seem to reject evidence often, I speculate that too often we are offered anecdotes and poorly controlled studies.
 
Interesting Ian said:


After making over 8000 posts on here in addition to reading fairly extensively on various alleged paranormal phenomena, and, whether on here or elsewhere, reading the skeptical responses, I think that I can safely say that there definitely is indeed some internal need amongst skeptics to simply a prior reject all evidence and to poo poo all reasoning which challenge their beliefs.

No fundamental misunderstanding here.

I'm not trying to start an argument here; this is my definite impression. Nor am I saying that we should necessarily embrace a number of paranormal phenomena. I simply state that I am quite convinced that there is a substantial emotional element present when skeptics pontificate on this topic. This is quite clear in their extreme utterances which demonstrably are not commensurate with the facts.

From a psychological perspective it is most fascinating.
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But was your impression generated by some need to belittle the skeptical viewpoint because you don't agree with it? Or maybe you do agree with it but are unable to come to terms with that?

Indeed, most fascinating.
 
Interesting Ian said:


After making over 8000 posts on here in addition to reading fairly extensively on various alleged paranormal phenomena, and, whether on here or elsewhere, reading the skeptical responses, I think that I can safely say that there definitely is indeed some internal need amongst skeptics to simply a prior reject all evidence and to poo poo all reasoning which challenge their beliefs.

From a psychological perspective it is most fascinating.
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I am willing to bet that you "a priori" reject the idea that somebody could defy gravty. By this I mean REALLY believe. For example, I say I can defy gravity and wnat you to jump out of a plane with me so I can show you.

Its a bit like that with sceptics and paranormal claims. Why do wwe have reexamine every claim that defies accepted physical laws (e.g. homeopathy), or has been made repeatedly before (e.g. dowsing)?

Sceptics do act "a priori" at times, in that we infer effects from causes already known. That makes us rational. Sceptics don't feel the need to rediscover gravity every time they want to fly in a plane, just to be sure the situtation hasn't changed. Gravity is gravity is gravity, it acts on all things the same way. We don't need to test each new object for the effect.

Woo woos, on the other hand, refuse, or fail to learn from repeated evidence over decades or longer. That is just irrational.
 
Let's break this down comprehensively.

Interesting Ian said:
After making over 8000 posts on here
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That's true enough...

in addition to reading fairly extensively on various alleged paranormal phenomena
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I'll give him that

, and, whether on here or elsewhere, reading the skeptical responses, I think that I can safely say that there definitely is indeed some internal need amongst skeptics to simply a prior reject all evidence and to poo poo all reasoning which challenge their beliefs.

No fundamental misunderstanding here.
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Huge misunderstanding here. Obviously, Ian has either a: been here the entire time and is yanking our chain or b: is a complete assho!e.

I'm not trying to start an argument here; this is my definite impression. Nor am I saying that we should necessarily embrace a number of paranormal phenomena. I simply state that I am quite convinced that there is a substantial emotional element present when skeptics pontificate on this topic. This is quite clear in their extreme utterances which demonstrably are not commensurate with the facts.

From a psychological perspective it is most fascinating. [/B]
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Ian, from the beginning you have had a believer's mindset, which is: if we can't explain it, it must be paranormal. In no way have you furthered any other mindset at all, unless you want us all to think you are a complete fraud. I'm beginning to believe the latter, myself.
 
buki said:
Let's break this down comprehensively.

That's true enough...

I'll give him that

Huge misunderstanding here. Obviously, Ian has either a: been here the entire time and is yanking our chain or b: is a complete assho!e.

Ian, from the beginning you have had a believer's mindset, which is: if we can't explain it, it must be paranormal. In no way have you furthered any other mindset at all, unless you want us all to think you are a complete fraud. I'm beginning to believe the latter, myself.
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At first I thought Ian was using that old Debating Society tactic of having to argue a position that is diametrically opposite to your beliefs.

But what kind of person would want to 'yank a chain' for 8000 posts?

I suspect the truth is that that he just refuses to listen because he is in denial. He thinks that a materialistic worldview directly equates with immorality and purposelessness. Therefore materialists are bad people and he feels he is on a crusade to convert us all. He is also convinced that he posseses 'facts' and 'evidence' that 'prove' that paranormal phenomena actually do happen -- ergo materialism is false, ergo God, the cosmic Mind, exists.

Notice that when asked to explore the other route, as in the Mrs Piper Mediumship thread, and in the Cockroach thread, he just cannot do it. He is a religious zealot afraid that materialism is a threat to his 'spirituality'. He is also a hypocrite who demonstrates in many of his posts why many here think that narcissistic psi nuts are not simply benign fools.
 
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