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Things we have in common

hammegk said:
And spelling .... i.e. "tendency".....
+ 5 for spotting that, - 5 for the ellipses... :) (BTW, I think "e.g." would have been more appropriate than "i.e."...)
 
Do we generally agree that PETA people are, not to put too fine a point on it, moonbats?

Cotton shirts are better than polyester.

The '70s were a disaster for fashion - particularly men's.

Steak is better than tofu.
 
Mycroft said:
It seems to me there are some issues that skeptics in general seem to have overwhelming agreement on, even amongst those who seem to bicker over everything else.

Evolution/creationis/ID is a given.

Support of gay marriage, while not universal seems overwhelming among skeptics.

Stem cell research, we're for it.

While there is disagreement over saying the Pledge, the overwhelming support seems to be that the words "under God" should be excluded.

What amazes me is that these are all very controversal issues, and yet this very diverse group seems to have come together on them.

Are there other issues I'm forgetting?

I think pledges of allegiance are fundamentally unAmerican and hence, unpatriotic.
 
hammegk said:
And spelling .... i.e. "tendency".....

The standard punctuation rule for an elipsis is three periods. Three shall be the number of periods to count to, and the number of periods to count to shall be three. Two shalt thou not count to, excepting that thou proceedest immediately to the number three. Five periods is right out!
 
Beerina said:
The standard punctuation rule for an elipsis is three periods. Three shall be the number of periods to count to, and the number of periods to count to shall be three. Two shalt thou not count to, excepting that thou proceedest immediately to the number three. Five periods is right out!

It always confused me, when reading Charlie Brown comic strips, that Schultz used .. after every statement. Is it a more emphatic full stop? Or are they abbreviated ellipses? If the latter, is it meant to suggest unspoken but understood words? If so, it can come across as rather threatening.

"Lucy, I'm going to the pumpkin patch."
versus
"Lucy, I'm going to the pumpkin patch.." with its unstated "..and you KNOW what happens there. Say goodbye to your pet kitten. Cthulhu is hungry for sacrifice!"
 
Mycroft said:

Stem cell research, we're for it.

I think this one is one of those things you can't simply. There are different facets.

Everyone supports stem cell research to some extent.

Do you support private sector stem cell research?
I think most people would answer yes.

Do you support government funded stem cell research?
I think most people would answer yes to funding work using existing stem cell lines.

Do you support creating human embryos for destruction for stem cell research?
Here I think you will have some splintering along religious and philosophical lines.

Do you support government funded human embryo destruction for stem cell research?
And here is where I think the big schism is. On one hand you have your libertarian types who think the government shouldn't be paying for medical research when the private sector can do it, on the other you have religious types who this deeply disturbs, on the other hand this has a freakout factor beyond faith that disturbs non-believers to some degree as well.

So when you say we all agree on stem cell research, it is too vague. And when you take it down to the linchpin issue, you will find we perhaps do not all agree.

(mind you, I havent decided what I think about government funded research that includes human embyro creation for destruction, I think about more mundane topics like fighting wars, taxes, and regulation)
 
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corplinx said:
I think this one is one of those things you can't simply. There are different facets.

Everyone supports stem cell research to some extent.

Do you support private sector stem cell research?
I think most people would answer yes.

No I don't care wether or not they waste thier money

Do you support government funded stem cell research?
I think most people would answer yes to funding work using existing stem cell lines.

Nope waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere

Do you support creating human embryos for destruction for stem cell research?
Here I think you will have some splintering along religious and philosophical lines.

No one has manged to show that this is required
 
I think that well-educated, computer-literate, non-religious people tend to have certain traits in common. I think Mycroft's list is accurate.

I think we value education more.
I think we are more arrogant and contrarians.
I think we tend to libertarianism but I would guess we have a higher percentage of technocrats (socialists-lite) as well.

CBL
 
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corplinx said:
(mind you, I havent decided what I think about government funded research that includes human embyro creation for destruction, I think about more mundane topics like fighting wars, taxes, and regulation)

You know, maybe you're more up on the issue than I am, but I was under the impression that all the stem cells required for any kind of research could be had from waste tissue. Why would anyone ever create a whole new fetus just to harvest some cells?
 
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geni said:
No I don't care wether or not they waste thier money



Nope waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere



No one has manged to show that this is required

I don't think I've come across this opinion before. Are you saying stem cell research is a waste of money? What makes you say that?
 
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Mycroft said:
I don't think I've come across this opinion before. Are you saying stem cell research is a waste of money? What makes you say that?

Start here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4214800.stm

With the exception of nanotechnolgy I've never seen such an over hyped science and at least with nanotechnolgy most of the stuff given that lable has some use (although the lable is missleading).

Oh steamcells are really interesting scientificaly but anyone who claims they might be of use in the near future is lying.
 
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geni said:
Start here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4214800.stm

With the exception of nanotechnolgy I've never seen such an over hyped science and at least with nanotechnolgy most of the stuff given that lable has some use (although the lable is missleading).

Oh steamcells are really interesting scientificaly but anyone who claims they might be of use in the near future is lying.

And yet it was just a few weeks ago I read of a therapy for heart attack patients where heart tissue damaged could be regenerated with stem cells.

I'll read your article.
 
One other thing, I don't know if it's a clear majority or not, but it seems to me there is above average bipartisan support for legalized recreational drugs.

Anyone agree? Disagree?
 
Mycroft said:
One other thing, I don't know if it's a clear majority or not, but it seems to me there is above average bipartisan support for legalized recreational drugs.

Anyone agree? Disagree?

'Bipartisan' means nothing to a non-American :)

But I'm divided on the issue. I'm not so sure if they should be legalized, but if they were, I'd be okay with it :p
 
Lets see...

We're all pro-life
We all want to ban guns from the planet
We think think the UN can shove it
We all want Michael Moore for president 2008
We dont like homosexual marriage

What else?
 
Yahweh said:
Lets see...

We're all pro-life
We all want to ban guns from the planet
We think think the UN can shove it
We all want Michael Moore for president 2008
We dont like homosexual marriage

What else?

Thank you for the contributions, but I just don't think we're on the same page here...
 
Ryokan said:
'Bipartisan' means nothing to a non-American :)

But I'm divided on the issue. I'm not so sure if they should be legalized, but if they were, I'd be okay with it :p

Poly-partisan? :)
 

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