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Merged Their Return

King of the Americas said:
Let's leave the omni-potent talk talk out of it. While I have witnessed something 'better'/more capable than us, I've also seen their absence, in the wake of human devastation. If they are omni-potent, then they are the laziest overlords I've ever lived under.

'They' were once far more active in "homo sapian sapian's" day to day lives.

Now, it would seem they've moved to a more observe and study mode...
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King of the Americas said:
Guilty as charged, it would seem.

And since I suck at spelling, this MUST mean ... what exactly?

And I thought we were Homo Sapien SAPIEN?
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Actually, it's homo sapiens sapiens.
http://anthro.palomar.edu/homo2/mod_homo_4.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human

"Sapiens" is an adjective modifying "homo." It's not the plural of "homo sapien."
 
Correa Neto said:
Oh, but my view is quite broader than yours. My space opera interpretation takes in to account things yours do not. Below you can find some examples:

1. Sacrifices (animal and human)- extremely common all around the world, especially at some cultures taken as to have been in contact with the alien false gods (ex: Mayas, Aztecs, Incas). What sort of benevolent sentient creature would be pleased with the suffering and death of other creatures? Why would they need these sacrifices?

2. Reports of modern abductions (and some ancient tales) indicate proceedures which are quite similar to the way we handle livestock (tags, invasive examinations, selective breeding) at conventional farms and also at game farms.

3. The constant analogies made by Semitic religions comparing people to sheep and the (false) gods to shepperds. We know the ultimate fate of lambs in the hands of shepperds, don't we?

4. The thin veneer masquereding the antropophagic nature of some Christian rites is easilly removed. Its all about blood and flesh... And they were built over the influence of your fellow Jesus/Yeshua, who by the way every now and then also used refferences to sacrificial lambs. So yes, Jesus/Yeshua was one of them and it can be all that bad.

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1.) Didn't God's latest messenger tell us that sacrifices were useless and or unnecessary?

2.) I disagree with your livestock analogy. But I DO believe the stories of abduction are just about identical to how we treat endangered species. That said, while it looks and sounds bad as we poke, probe and prod our animal brethren , our scientists are merely trying to preserve the species.

3.) To be annually shaved for their wool?

4.) Ignore what doesn't fit your equation, great, how convenient.

I think you make an error when you ascribe past behavior to current motives, as if they are exactly what they were yesterday. To ascribe Hitler's "Final Solution" to today's Germany would be wrong.

Living things, grow, change, and evolve. Why should we not expect 'them' to do the same?
 
King of the Americas said:
3.) To be annually shaved for their wool?
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Lambs are slaughtered at 2 months, or 3-8 months if it is a 'heavy lamb'. It doesn't get a single shearing.

Although mutton is less popular in the West these days, it still ends up on the dinner plate. Or in pet food.

Even so, under your space opera (sorry for stealing Correo, but I just love that), when the aliens come down into the Olympic stadium thanks to much skyward cooing, are you first in line for the ignominious full-body shave, tagging and human dip?
 
King of the Americas said:
Guilty as charged, it would seem.

And since I suck at spelling, this MUST mean ... what exactly?

And I thought we were Homo Sapien SAPIEN?
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I am,I don't know about you. Picture the scene,at the Olympic opening ceremony the crowd all look up,some will a get a crick in their neck,others will get bird crap in the eye,others will get their pockets picked,nothing else will happen,what then?
 
King of the Americas said:
1.) Didn't God's latest messenger tell us that sacrifices were useless and or unnecessary?
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Whoa there. Are you saying now that these "gods" are connected with "God," the MONO-theistic, jealous, omnipotent etc. character of the Bible? If so, then about the last thing on earth you'd want to do is to start inviting alien gods down for a chat. If you're not making that identification, then of course your alien gods have no reason to follow the rules of Christian or any other religion's behavior with regard to sacrifices or anything else. Better make up your mind.
2.) I disagree with your livestock analogy. But I DO believe the stories of abduction are just about identical to how we treat endangered species. That said, while it looks and sounds bad as we poke, probe and prod our animal brethren , our scientists are merely trying to preserve the species.
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Do we actually need aliens to do this for us? Hmm., We do study endangered and other species pretty thoroughly, largely so that we can keep them from going extinct without having to stop stealing their habitats and altering their environment to their detriment. If that's what aliens are doing, it doesn't bode well.
3.) To be annually shaved for their wool?
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Oh, come on. Never heard of a lamb chop? We shave a certain percentage of the adults, at the same time we breed them so that we can EAT THEIR BABIES!
4.) Ignore what doesn't fit your equation, great, how convenient.
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Pot, meet kettle.
I think you make an error when you ascribe past behavior to current motives, as if they are exactly what they were yesterday. To ascribe Hitler's "Final Solution" to today's Germany would be wrong.
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There's a reason why even 60+ years later we often refer to "post-war Germany." That change was not a gentle evolution. Germany lost a very big, very traumatic war.
Living things, grow, change, and evolve. Why should we not expect 'them' to do the same?
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Not everything evolves the same way, and some living things stay the same. Besides, evolution takes a very long time. There are trees living now that have been alive for the entire span of recorded history. If you play the game of believing all the anecdotes you can't get select your favorites by pretending to know which ones will be true tomorrow and which ones not.
 
dafydd said:
I am,I don't know about you. Picture the scene,at the Olympic opening ceremony the crowd all look up,some will a get a crick in their neck,others will get bird crap in the eye,others will get their pockets picked,nothing else will happen,what then?
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The next portion of the ceremonies will commence, and mankind will be left feeling truly abandon by the gods of heaven...

On the other hand, if 'they' DO descend, mankind will be forced to expand its frontier of possible.
 
King of the Americas said:
The next portion of the ceremonies will commence, and mankind will be left feeling truly abandon by the gods of heaven...

On the other hand, if 'they' DO descend, mankind will be forced to expand its frontier of possible.
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They will not descend. They are not there. Nobody will feel abandoned.
 
King of the Americas said:
The next portion of the ceremonies will commence, and mankind will be left feeling truly abandon by the gods of heaven...

On the other hand, if 'they' DO descend, mankind will be forced to expand its frontier of possible.
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If there are gods in heaven, as you put it, they've had plenty of opportunity to do something useful for us. If they have not, then they either don't exist or they're useless. Either way we're better off without them.
 
King of the Americas said:
Can you make a right angle turn without slowing down, during flight?

Can you meld yourself or your vehicle with another to form a 4-fold larger version of yourself?

Because 'I' can't, and I no of no human technology that can.
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2 spotlights reflecting off a cloud can do this. Is that human technology?
 
bruto said:
If there are gods in heaven, as you put it, they've had plenty of opportunity to do something useful for us. If they have not, then they either don't exist or they're useless. Either way we're better off without them.
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Having never had them be a part of our society, I wouldn't know if we're better off without them...
 
King of the Americas said:
I suppose so...

And if there were no clouds, where they were performing?
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Since this is a hypothetical story, you can just shift the goalposts as long as you like, so why not just drop it here. You were incredulous that a light could make right-angle turns and join 2 lights to appear 4 times larger. Spotlights projected at varying heights could easily do this. That's just one potential explanation among many.

If you were referring to a non-hypothetical story, we'd like to see your original version of it in the other thread, so we could evaluate how the details have changed in your memory after all this time. In that story you refer to a "cloud formation" so removing clouds seems a bit dodgy.
 
carlitos said:
Since this is a hypothetical story, you can just shift the goalposts as long as you like, so why not just drop it here. You were incredulous that a light could make right-angle turns and join 2 lights to appear 4 times larger. Spotlights projected at varying heights could easily do this. That's just one potential explanation among many.

If you were referring to a non-hypothetical story, we'd like to see your original version of it in the other thread, so we could evaluate how the details have changed in your memory after all this time. In that story you refer to a "cloud formation" so removing clouds seems a bit dodgy.
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First, I never said "lights". I said "star-like objects", and this is not a hypothetical story.

There is plenty to witness my rate of error, right here.

There was a singular semetrical cigar or saucer shaped cloud that spawn this whole event.
 
I would really rather address the veracity of your non-hypothetical story in the proper thread. Not in one that starts like this:

So, let's pretend for a moment that all the anecdotes ARE accurate, that history IS a depiction of gods descending from the heavens, and that this is what people are seeing when they witness a U.F.O. The debate is over they exist.​

I think that the reason for this is obvious.
 
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