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This sighting of 2 trucks of "armed militia" goes here.

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Hurricane recovery officials in N.C. relocated amid report of ‘armed militia,’ email shows

Around 1 p.m. Saturday, an official with the U.S. Forest Service, which is supporting recovery efforts after Hurricane Helene along with the Federal Emergency Management Agency, sent an urgent message to numerous federal agencies warning that “FEMA has advised all federal responders Rutherford County, NC, to stand down and evacuate the county immediately. The message stated that National Guard troops 'had come across x2 trucks of armed militia saying there were out hunting FEMA.’”
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For context, the Forest Service and other land management agencies often play a role in hurricane recovery. Fire crews are self contained and organized and cut cut trees to open roads, along with other manual labor. The command structure developed to build up and then tear down big command operations for huge wildfires has been adapted into disaster response. So it's normal for them to be there after a big hurricane.
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Orphia Nay said:
This sighting of 2 trucks of "armed militia" goes here.
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I have to say after reading that article it seems more like a media creation than an actual, legitimate threat.

While the email from FEMA was real it seems to be born out of an abundance of caution and appeared to be triggered by a single comment from one person. The evidence for the existence of this armed militia is sorely lacking. Of course, if more information becomes available, I'll gladly change my position (that's what skepticism is after all).

In an age where almost everything seems fake, I think we need to be hyper-vigilant for misinformation, whether it confirms our pre-existing biases or not. This is one of the reasons I cancelled my subscription to the WAPO. Despite finding myself largely on the same side of the political aisle, their tendency to choose narrative over fact became troubling in recent years.
 
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No, it was a real threat by one man.

The sheriff’s office said initial reports indicated that a “truckload of militia” was involved in making the threat, but further investigation determined that Parsons acted alone.
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As it turns out, it was only one man. But why did Parson's threat target FEMA workers in the first place? Could it possibly be from hearing lies like these?

“They’re offering them $750 to people whose homes have been washed away,” Trump said Saturday at a rally in Butler, Pa. “And yet we send tens of billions of dollars to foreign countries that most people have never heard of. They’re offering them $750. They’ve been destroyed. These people have been destroyed.”
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Trump has made a series of false claims in the wake of Helene, including saying incorrectly that the federal government is intentionally withholding aid to Republican disaster victims. He also falsely claimed the Federal Emergency Management Agency had run out of money because all of it had gone to programs for immigrants in the country illegally.
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Stacyhs said:
No, it was real threat by one man.



As it turns out, it was only one man. But why did Parson's threat target FEMA workers in the first place? Could it possibly be from hearing lies like these?
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That's such an annoying thing to read. FEMA was giving $750 immediately to those impacted as emergency carryover cash, in addition to paying for hotels and whatever was available. Their quick response was incredible, and these bastards try to make it sound like they were trying to buy the survivors off.
 
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That's such an annoying thing to read. FEMA was giving $750 immediately to those impacted as emergency carryover cash, in addition to paying for hotels and whatever was available. Their quick response was incredible, and these bastards try to make it sound like they were trying to buy the survivors off.
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It gets worse. The lie being spread by Trump supporters is that the $750 is a loan that has to be paid back. If it's not, the government takes your land. In truth it's a grant that does not have to be paid back unless you have insurance that reimburses that money. Once reimbursed by your insurance, you do have to pay the $750 back. But the government never takes your land.
 
Stacyhs said:
It gets worse. The lie being spread by Trump supporters is that the $750 is a loan that has to be paid back. If it's not, the government takes your land. In truth it's a grant that does not have to be paid back unless you have insurance that reimburses that money. Once reimbursed by your insurance, you do have to pay the $750 back. But the government never takes your land.
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That's what I mean. FEMA set up an internet application site, and people had cash in their accounts within hours, and living arrangements almost immediately. That's nothing short of exemplary, dishing out what was needed without bureaucratic delays and approvals. Getting people through a storm is action to be applauded, no matter who is in the Oval Office. But these cockroaches inspire nuts to go "hunting" for FEMA workers.

And it's totally reasonable to pay back funds if you get compensated for them specifically later along the line. But being out on the street, you need cash to stay alive immediately, not waiting after filling out insurance paperwork, and they shelled it out fast.
 
Stacyhs said:
No, it was a real threat by one man.
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Which was exactly my point. The evidence for truckloads of armed militia making the threat was lacking but the article seemed to assume it was true.

As it turns out, it was a lone actor.
 
Texas man punched election worker over Trump hat at voting site, police say

SAN ANTONIO – A Texas man who wore a hat supporting former President Donald Trump punched an election worker who told him that wearing items endorsing a candidate are prohibited at voting sites, a sheriff said Friday.

The election worker, identified as a 69-year-old man, was treated at the scene Thursday and returned to his election post at a San Antonio library on Friday, officials said. The suspect was arrested on felony charges of assaulting an elderly person and could face additional charges, Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar said.

The alleged assault happened at the end of the first week of early voting in Texas, where long lines have stretched outside some polling places.
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sackett said:
I'm agin political violence, but I'm starting to feel a bit tempted by political vandalism -- but tasteful, principalled, dignified vandalism.

When I see a trumpianoid yard sign, or a row of them, say over in Grosse Pointe, I consider augmenting them rather than anything as vulgar as defacing them. I'd never stoop to, say, spraying on an orange swastika.

I'm thinking of peel and stick vinyl labels, 100 mm square and nicely printed in red, white, and black with an authentic, period-correct Hakenkreuz as worn in those brave and piping days when the Aryans marched from the Atlantic to the Volga! Place it in the upper Right corner of those yard signs! Press it down well and make it visible!

In short, I want to strengthen the dear GrossePointeds' signs, not smirch them.

I wonder how long it would take them to notice?

I wonder how many would leave them there?
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Once again, Trump calls upon his crowd-sourced brown shirts in opposition to a political opponent. Liz Cheney this time.

Ho hum. It's just another day that ends in Y.
 
varwoche said:
Once again, Trump calls upon his crowd-sourced brown shirts in opposition to a political opponent. Liz Cheney this time.
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I see frantic trumpkins insisting he didn't mean it that way. Both here, and in newspaper comment threads in Norway.
If it wasn't for the fact that his rhetoric is incredibly dangerous, I'd say let him run his mouth and hurt his election chances.
 
Trump doesn't mind if someone shoots a reporter.

Ho hum, it's another day ending in Y.
 
varwoche said:
Trump doesn't mind if someone shoots a reporter.

Ho hum, it's another day ending in Y.
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“ 'I have this piece of glass here. But all we have really over here is the fake news, right? And to get me, somebody would have to shoot through the fake news,” Trump said. “And I don’t mind that so much. I don’t mind.'

A Trump campaign spokesman said after the rally that the former president was actually musing about how the press was protecting him.

'President Trump was stating that the Media was in danger, in that they were protecting him and, therefore, were in great danger themselves, and should have had a glass protective shield, also. There can be no other interpretation of what was said. He was actually looking out for their welfare, far more than his own!' Steven Cheung said in a statement."


Sure. Sure he was Steven. Sure he was. What a slimeball Cheung is to be able to spew such drivel with a straight face.
 
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