Cont: The Trials of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito: Part 27

[LondonJohn]

Wow. You're pushing KrissyG and Nick van der Leek as psychological experts on blended families?

There are no words. Except to note that the guilt-PR campaign is both smaller than and nastier than anyone had guessed.

And proves that the thesis of The Scarlett Letter Reports is on to something.

On this particular issue, isn't it funny how partisan, vindictive anti-intellects such as VDL and "KrissyG" always paint Knox's parents' divorce as some sort of ugly, destructive event which tore the family apart.... while at the same time always painting Kercher's parents' divorce as some sort of loving, caring act which - if anything - only brought the family closer together.

The truth - as borne out by actual evidence - is very different in both cases.

 

[LondonJohn]

It's still only opinion, albeit based on a reasonable assumption.

Yeah, just like it's only "opinion" that the Earth orbits around the Sun....

Vixen: it's a proven fact that Knox and her family took two scheduled British Airways flights back from Italy - the first from Rome to London, and the second from London to Seattle. It's a proven fact because it's wholly supported and indicated by a large amount credible, reliable evidence.

It's a fact, Vixen. That you continue to look on it as "still only opinion, albeit based on a reasonable assumption" speaks volumes about your poor critical thinking and analytical abilities - as well as your astonishing inability to concede that you are ever wrong about anything. Wow.

 

[Bill Williams]

On this particular issue, isn't it funny how partisan, vindictive anti-intellects such as VDL and "KrissyG" always paint Knox's parents' divorce as some sort of ugly, destructive event which tore the family apart.... while at the same time always painting Kercher's parents' divorce as some sort of loving, caring act which - if anything - only brought the family closer together.

The truth - as borne out by actual evidence - is very different in both cases.

Nick "cut and paste" van der Leek at one time managed the impossible; both the guilter-PR campaign as well as innocentisi distanced themselves from him. Both "sides" criticized his "cut and paste" writing style, which allows him to self-publish a book a month.

KrissyG is noted on one of his books as a proofreader, IIRC the cut-and-paste job which put the murder in June, when in fact it had been in November.

Neither have credentials of any kind, much less being qualified to make observations about blended families.

It's how the hater, slutshaming campaign rolls.

 

[Stacyhs]

Run out of words?

What Meredith Kercher did, was remind Knox in her fairy tale abroad about that hole. Kercher had two loving parents, who maintained very close contact with her despite them being divorced and her being abroad. Knox realized divorce wasn’t an excuse for her own parents to take such a minimal interest in her interior life.

words...?

I didn't say vdL ran out of 'words'; I said 'nasty adjectives'. But thank you for posting that link. It just proves that certain people will never run out of nasty adjectives... or words...when it comes to Knox. They have a bottomless repository of hateful and ugly vitriol that comes from deep within themselves. You and others criticize people "making money" on Kercher's death, yet NvdL and those who help him like his 'editors' have no problem pumping out cut and paste jobs one after the other with the motive of profiting from them.

That quote from NvdL is further evidence of his lack of honesty. It is based on nothing rooted in reality. He wants us to believe Knox's parents took little interest in her life when the facts show the complete opposite. Curt bought a house within a few block of Edda's so he could remain close to his daughters and involved in their lives. Both parents took active part in her life. The entire family's dedication to Amanda's defense, ruining themselves financially in order to always have a family member in Italy to be near her, and their unrelenting support for her are proof that NvdL is a liar, a fraud, and a man of no honor who only cares about making money. And those who aid and abet him are no better.

 

[Stacyhs]

It's wonderful the self-described sluttish Amber Rose is, "Making a powerful statement: 'I am taking the punch for all women'" ~ Amanda Knox.

Not in my name, dearie. What has Amber Rose ever done in her life except parade in extremely scanty clothing in public and lay a variety of rap artists?[/QUOTE]

Er, it was Amber Rose proudly describes herself as 'a slut'. It is her fame card.

Tell me what she has achieved. Spent seven years at medical school and then another five as a locum? Train as a nurse? Volunteer as an overseas worker? Run a marathon in aid of a good cause?

No, all she appears to have done, without a hint of irony, is parade up and down a street wearing her scanty underwear with her boobs half hanging out.

Yeah, it must be really hard work prancing about in a camisole and suspenders. Takes at least three years of study.

Anyway, if Amber Rose is going to do that, she should watch her weight, as she appears to be busting out all over, as it were.

She is not 'taking the punch' for me. Even Knox looks momentarily incredulous,before breaking out in a fake smile, and that's saying something.

Amber Rose: get dressed and do something useful.

Parading around in underwear has nothing to do with 'wimmins lib'.Amber Rose is another one who thinks she's invented sex.
She seems entirely unconscious of the fact that she is not any more special than anybody else.

We are supposed to feel sorry for her? Pur-lease.

No, a misogynist is someone who degrades women. For example, frequenting strip clubs and ogling women's bodies. The women do it for money.

I can see nothing honourable about it. I used to frequent a pub in Crouch End, until one day I went in there at lunch time and there was a crowd of men gathered around this young woman. To my embarrassment, I noticed she was stripping, and it was a sad, degrading sight.

Later I was at the bar with friends when a female friend of a friend joined us. She had been middle class once, from her accent, but now her face was all battered and bruised, she had a crooked jaw, from having been beaten up once too often. She was broken and pitiful. No more than about age 28. Yes, I realised she was a prostitute.

No, being a sex worker is NOT glamorous. It is dangerous, degrading and seedy. And it is not misogynistic to say so.

You disprove your last post with your own words. You have degraded Amber Rose. You have slut-shamed her. You have body shamed her.
She became a stripper at age 15 in order to support her family after her parents divorced. However, she was never a prostitute so your attempt to equate her with one falls flat.

No one here has said that being a sex worker is glamorous so your remark is misplaced.

Yes, you are an example of what my mother said: women are their own worst enemies.

 

[TruthCalls]

Yes, you are an example of what my mother said: women are their own worst enemies.

I agree with your mom, but it's misplaced here. Vixen is an equal opportunity hater... shes hated on men just as much as women.

I believe the correct phrase in this case would be "haters are gonna hate"

 

[Stacyhs]

Er, Maresca himself argued it in court, that there was a private jet awaiting her.

Don't shoot the messenger, guv.

No, Maresca did not "argue it in court"; he falsely claimed it in court in his attempt to keep Knox in jail.

As I said, acbytesla has argued his case well enough, so I'll give him the benefit of a doubt.

Once bitten, twice shy. You can argue BS with a straight face. However, I'll buy it on this occasion.

You just can't admit you are wrong which is why you keep producing such obvious nonsense as Acbytesla "argued his case well enough" and you'll "buy it on this occasion" etc. Ask yourself why you cannot admit you are wrong even after claiming that you're "the first to have (your) hand up" when wrong. Talk about not being self-aware!

 

[Stacyhs]

I agree with your mom, but it's misplaced here. Vixen is an equal opportunity hater... shes hated on men just as much as women.

I believe the correct phrase in this case would be "haters are gonna hate"

While I agree with you regarding "haters are gonna hate", I will stick by my statement that Vixen is a classic example of women being their own worst enemies.

 

[Stacyhs]

I see the completely disproved "charter flight" lie still remains on TJMK. Too bad no one has the honesty and moral integrity to correct it.

 

[acbytesla]

I see the completely disproved "charter flight" lie still remains on TJMK. Too bad no one has the honesty and moral integrity to correct it.

Keep in mind that Vixen has still not said she was wrong regarding the charter. Only 'fair enough' I doubt she brought back to TJMK the links I provided that debunked the claim.

 

[NotEvenWrong]

Are there no young, talented, attractive females desired by the opposite sex who are safe from Vixen's wrath?

 

[Vixen]

It's wonderful the self-described sluttish Amber Rose is, "Making a powerful statement: 'I am taking the punch for all women'" ~ Amanda Knox.

Not in my name, dearie. What has Amber Rose ever done in her life except parade in extremely scanty clothing in public and lay a variety of rap artists?[/QUOTE]

You disprove your last post with your own words. You have degraded Amber Rose. You have slut-shamed her. You have body shamed her.
She became a stripper at age 15 in order to support her family after her parents divorced. However, she was never a prostitute so your attempt to equate her with one falls flat.

No one here has said that being a sex worker is glamorous so your remark is misplaced.

Yes, you are an example of what my mother said: women are their own worst enemies.

I don't recall my mother ever saying anything misogynistic.

 

[Vixen]

Are there no young, talented, attractive females desired by the opposite sex who are safe from Vixen's wrath?

Not so PC after all.

 

[Vixen]

Keep in mind that Vixen has still not said she was wrong regarding the charter. Only 'fair enough' I doubt she brought back to TJMK the links I provided that debunked the claim.

Are we speaking a different language? What does 'fair enough' mean in US parlance?

In England, it is akin to committing harakiri on national tv.

 

[Stacyhs]

It's wonderful the self-described sluttish Amber Rose is, "Making a powerful statement: 'I am taking the punch for all women'" ~ Amanda Knox.

Not in my name, dearie. What has Amber Rose ever done in her life except parade in extremely scanty clothing in public and lay a variety of rap artists?[/QUOTE]

I don't recall my mother ever saying anything misogynistic.

I doubt you'd recognize it if she did. You don't recognize your own slut shaming and body shaming so why would you recognize anybody else's?

Not so PC after all.

There is nothing wrong with saying someone is desired by the opposite sex. It's nature. Perhaps you just don't recognize that either.

Are we speaking a different language? What does 'fair enough' mean in US parlance?

In England, it is akin to committing harakiri on national tv.

'Fair enough' means the same thing in the US as in the UK. From the UK Collins Dictionary:

You use fair enough when you want to say that a statement, decision, or action seems reasonable to a certain extent, but that perhaps there is more to be said or done.

And from the US MacMillan Dictionary:

used for saying that something seems reasonable but you do not agree with it completely

It is not an admission of error. Which is why you used it. You can't admit error. Right, Donald...er...Vixen?

 

[Vixen]

I doubt you'd recognize it if she did. You don't recognize your own slut shaming and body shaming so why would you recognize anybody else's?



There is nothing wrong with saying someone is desired by the opposite sex. It's nature. Perhaps you just don't recognize that either.



'Fair enough' means the same thing in the US as in the UK. From the UK Collins Dictionary:



And from the US MacMillan Dictionary:



It is not an admission of error. Which is why you used it. You can't admit error. Right, Donald...er...Vixen?

All I know of Amber Rose is how she chose to present herself in the VICE video. 'Slut' is her own label, and she is filmed walking down a public street in her skimpy lingerie.

In the UK she'd be arrested for outraging public decency.

There is no anomaly in a scheduled flight being booked as a chartered flight for a whole party of people, therefore the case has not been proven.

But, fair enough, I'm happy to go along with Acbytesla's protestations, which is based on limited information.

 

[acbytesla]

Are we speaking a different language? What does 'fair enough' mean in US parlance?

In England, it is akin to committing harakiri on national tv.

Apparently. How does 'fair enough' translate into 'I was wrong about the flight'? I know we are from two countries separated by a common language, but c'mon.

 

[Vixen]

Apparently. How does 'fair enough' translate into 'I was wrong about the flight'? I know we are from two countries separated by a common language, but c'mon.

You say tomato, I say tomato.

 

[Stacyhs]

All I know of Amber Rose is how she chose to present herself in the VICE video. 'Slut' is her own label, and she is filmed walking down a public street in her skimpy lingerie.

In the UK she'd be arrested for outraging public decency.

There is no anomaly in a scheduled flight being booked as a chartered flight for a whole party of people, therefore the case has not been proven.

But, fair enough, I'm happy to go along with Acbytesla's protestations, which is based on limited information.

You've done it again. Rather than admit that Marriott (or anyone else) did not charter that fight for Knox, you dance around it by claiming that "There is no anomaly in a scheduled flight being booked as a chartered flight for a whole party of people, therefore the case has not been proven."
This was a freaking 747, not a small charter jet. Once again, as already stated and cited, a BA employee used his or her employee privileges to secure the seats. Or do you now want to argue that those privileges included chartering an entire 747? Stop embarrassing yourself with this stupidity.

As I and everyone else on this thread knows, you simply will not admit you were wrong.

 

[Stacyhs]

You say tomato, I say tomato.

Now that's some convincing argument.