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Cont: The Russian invasion of Ukraine part 7

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Not a good couple of weeks for the right
 
Also, Putin knows that he needs all the troops he can get in Ukraine at the moment to stave off the counteroffensive. So he'll likely only redeploy significant forces as a last resort.
 
Chances are the Russian airforce will be preoccupied today. Whether that's something the Ukrainians can usefully exploit I'm less sure. Might be better to pause and see how mutinous the Russian front lines get in the next few days.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Chances are the Russian airforce will be preoccupied today. Whether that's something the Ukrainians can usefully exploit I'm less sure. Might be better to pause and see how mutinous the Russian front lines get in the next few days.
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No, they need to keep the pressure on.
 
Can Russian troops currently in Ukraine, and their equipment, actually get to Moscow, or between Wagner and Moscow, in any condition to defend it before Wagner could get there? Wagner appears to have something of a head start.
 
Steve said:
Can Russian troops currently in Ukraine, and their equipment, actually get to Moscow, or between Wagner and Moscow, in any condition to defend it before Wagner could get there? Wagner appears to have something of a head start.
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Plus he occupies the main hq and logistics base.
If you want to see how easy it is to disengage and redeploy to a different front, look at what happened to the German divisions that were ordered to redeploy from facing the British around Caen to counterattack the US breakout from the Normandy beach head. Mind, it was deliberate allied strategy to draw in the SS divisions to the east and pin down as many as possible.

Just saying, your forces have to be very good to disengage and reposition to a different front without chaos. Even the Germans failed.
 
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There's a huge fire in a major fuel depot in Voronezh. Careless smoking, or Kremlin troops burning their own stuff to keep it from falling to Wagner?
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There are videos showing that it was an attack by Ka-52 helicopters but it's not clear which side was flying them. I suspect they were Russian as there's another video showing Wagner troops shooting at one with a SAM.
 
I wonder if the Wagner plea for more ammo was part of the plan?
Stockpile ready for this assault.
Like the French 2nd Division kept pleading for more fuel to give them a stockpile for a race to Paris.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Plus he occupies the main hq and logistics base.
If you want to see how easy it is to disengage and redeploy to a different front, look at what happened to the German divisions that were ordered to redeploy from facing the British around Caen to counterattack the US breakout from the Normandy beach head. Mind, it was deliberate allied strategy to draw in the SS divisions to the east and pin down as many as possible.

Just saying, your forces have to be very good to disengage and reposition to a different front without chaos. Even the Germans failed.
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Yup. Russian army in Ukraine has no role to play in Wagner's current actions.
 
When Putin started to withdraw support for Wagner, he put Prigozhin on a timer:.take over Russia before he runs out of funds to pay his mercs
 
a_unique_person said:
It's not a coup, it's a special operation.
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Special military reorganisation.

crescent said:
Tankies are suddenly admitting that Wagners are Nazi. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
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I've seen some tankies suggest that NATO have paid off Wagner to do this, and I've seen one suggest that this is "maskirovka". I really don't think it's the latter since things are too crazy for it to be a deception. Unless this is all a thing orchestrated by Surkov in which case who knows what we are to believe.
 
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