Merged The MANDELA Effect.

[Foolmewunz]

CERN, LHC, etc. The LHC was supposed to destroy the world by creating a black hole or something, and since that didn't happen, now it's apparently messing with the timeline.

But yeah, "The Mandela Effect" sounds a lot sexier than "bad memory".

The first sign of The Woo Has Taken Over is when you presently Google "mandela effect" you get the wiki entry, but also the Snopes and a whole lot of Youtube. Just the preponderance of Youtube should warn that it's gone over to Nutso-Ville. But I actually clicked a couple of them and you get those early woo 911 type videos. Bad cutting, a lot of text, and if there's a narrator he's got that boring drone of a voice that puts people to sleep..... except, of course, people who've grokked the truth, man.

 

[MuDPhuD]

As Bram Kaandorp has just said, these people really do think that the "timeline" has changed, and yet somehow they have retained a memory of the way the world was before the change.

They are intrigued to find themselves in a science fictional Dickian altered reality for real, and since they are the only ones aware of the cosmic shift, they are perforce cast in the role of hero.

Now they are trying to band together with the select few other heroes, either to gain succour from like-minded community, or in order to move on to the next stage of resisting, forming a band of brothers in order to … find out who has hijacked reality, so they can bring down the forces of alteration and restore the one true timeline? Or whatever.

So, they don't really want anything from you. They are still searching for fellow travellers, and stumbling towards the noble battle that must surely come? Or perhaps they fancy themselves like a super private eye, picking up the thread of mystery?

Whatever. Some of them are scamsters looking to milk the gullible, of course, and they are hoping to string you along towards some sort of payoff for themselves. But the rest are just looking for a way out of their mundane lives with some real live action. Or mentally ill. Or they've never realised that science fiction is more fun if you read books instead of role-playing a half-baked fantasy.

...and they apparently have no idea how frail and subject to distortion their memories actually are.

By the way does anyone remember a scene in Dr. No where Bond (Connery) hides in his bedroom while a villain unloads his machine pistol into the pillows in the bed, and then Bond comes out and says "you've had your sixty, now here's my 6", and proceeds to unload his PPK into the man after he's already down. It was a bit gruesome, and appears to have been altered in recent versions of the film on disc?

If it turns out that others also remember this altered scene I will suspect CONSPIRACY!

 

[Bram Kaandorp]

...and they apparently have no idea how frail and subject to distortion their memories actually are.

They don't.

They do, however, realise how frail and subject to distortion everybody else's memories are, otherwise we'd remember that it was different before the change.

 

[Drs_Res]

I watched a few YouTube videos on the Mandela effect before I decided they were just plain stupid. The best one was someone claiming that the "Brady Bunch Variety Hour" (the one with "Fake Jan") was proof of the effect because it's just too silly to have been a real thing.

No, that was the Star Wars Christmas special.

It's all a plot by George Lucas to make people believe it never REALLY happened.

 

[trustbutverify]

I think the reason for the distinction is that some people refuse to accept that it's confabulation.

They call it an effect because they think it's a real thing, and not simply misremembering things.

Yes... and those people are wrong. Human memory is notoriously and wildly unreliable and group effects of false memories are based on both the power of suggestion and similar environmental/cultural stimuli having similar effects on similar people.

This kind of confabulation happens to me on the regular.

 

[catsmate]

Why do so few people remember the Staten Island Ferry Disaster of 1963? More than four hundred people died in the sinking of the Cornelius G. Kolff but it was overshadowed by the death of a president. Or is there another reason so few people remember?

Well yes, it didn't actually happen

 

[Drewbot]

I think the Popeye Movie may have made people think that the giant Octopus involved was just a silly made up movie character.

 

[Stellafane]

Why do so few people remember the Staten Island Ferry Disaster of 1963? More than four hundred people died in the sinking of the Cornelius G. Kolff but it was overshadowed by the death of a president. Or is there another reason so few people remember?

Well yes, it didn't actually happen

The bolded part must be a mistake. Everyone knows JFK married Elvis in 1980.

 

[Jim_MDP]

The bolded part must be a mistake. Everyone knows JFK married Elvis in 1980.

I must have another faulty memory...

The Enquirer taught me that Elvis married Bigfoot, though I don't recall the year.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

I must have another faulty memory...

The Enquirer taught me that Elvis married Bigfoot, though I don't recall the year.

It was a national tragedy when they got divorced.

 

[shemp]

Why do so few people remember the Staten Island Ferry Disaster of 1963? More than four hundred people died in the sinking of the Cornelius G. Kolff but it was overshadowed by the death of a president. Or is there another reason so few people remember?

Well yes, it didn't actually happen

BUT I REMEMBER IT!!!

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

For years, I had a specific memory of one of the first Doctor Who episodes I ever watched. K-9 was sitting on the throne in a medieval castle, and was then thrown down a stone flight of stairs.

Years later I'm watching some Tom Baker stories and I see "State Of Decay", in which K-9 is indeed sitting on a throne in a castle, but doesn't get thrown down any staircases. I also watch the next story, "Warrior's Gate", in which K-9 gets thrown off the cargo hatch of a grounded spaceship.

Now, what's the most likely explanation - that I misremembered and conflated two memories, or that I'm from an alternate dimension where Doctor Who was different?

I also have a very, very clear memory of watching a TV programme when I was between the ages of 3 and 6. It was a sci-fi thing with a group of kids investigating some kind of evil goings on by some kind of corporation. I remember them investigating a factory and finding giant-sized valves (as in the electrical component) in which people were trapped. Nobody I've asked as an adult has had a clue what I'm going on about. It's possible that this is because I lived in Germany at the time and I'm remembering a programme that never aired outside that country. Or it's possible I'm from an alternate dimension where everybody knew this very popular programme and it's iconic vacuum tube scene.

Or, perhaps, the memories of a young child aren't to be trusted several decades later.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

The bolded part must be a mistake. Everyone knows JFK married Elvis in 1980.

They were married? That explains how they ended up in the same retirement home, fighting that mummy, after JFK had been dyed black.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

I guess it's obvious at this point that our brains neither remember our past, nor make predictions about the future:
instead, they are tuning in into parallel universes which are ahead of or behind us, time-wise.

The lack of any proof for this just makes my argument stronger.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I guess I'll just move away from them on the park bench like I did with the lady who wanted my advice on whether she should use opaque jars or clear ones to capture moonbeams.

The answer, obviously, is neither. You'd want jars constructed of two-way mirrors, so the beams could enter through the glass, but would then be reflected endlessly around the inside.

 

[catsmate]

I must have another faulty memory...

The Enquirer taught me that Elvis married Bigfoot, though I don't recall the year.

BIGAMIST!!

 

[wollery]

I guess I'll just move away from them on the park bench like I did with the lady who wanted my advice on whether she should use opaque jars or clear ones to capture moonbeams.

Internally silvered. You need to keep those moonbeams fresh.



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[abaddon]

A new example...

It was "Star Trek: The Last Frontier" until the timeline was shifted. Claimed by some crank I randomly clicked on.

 

[Bram Kaandorp]

I love the "something changed again" attitude I see very often on the subreddit.

As if something actually changed, and they are the only ones to notice.

Their experience is what actually happened, and every time they encounter a discrepancy, that means things have changed.

It's a wonder that they can actually function in such a world. I know I wouldn't be able to, because I'd always second guess whether something is still the way I experienced it earlier.

"I wonder if the store is still where it was yesterday, and if the name is still spelled the same way." would be a constant thought I'd have.

 

[Porpoise of Life]

I love the "something changed again" attitude I see very often on the subreddit.

As if something actually changed, and they are the only ones to notice.

Their experience is what actually happened, and every time they encounter a discrepancy, that means things have changed.

It's a wonder that they can actually function in such a world. I know I wouldn't be able to, because I'd always second guess whether something is still the way I experienced it earlier.

"I wonder if the store is still where it was yesterday, and if the name is still spelled the same way." would be a constant thought I'd have.

The secret is not to think about it too much.
Just enough so you can deflect any criticism and feel special about yourself, but not enough to become aware of the horrifying problems this constant reality shifting would cause.
Remember: your feelings are more important than any fact.