Could be, but I'm more skeptical of concept cars at car shows than I am of advances in batteries and electric vehicles.
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Dabop
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Which only goes to show out of date your expectations are.....
One of 300 ordered- back in 2018 in China... (just swap the tipper body for a concrete agitator lol)
Oh wait...
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And your 'I am also highly skeptical of a picture from what appears to be a trade show. Could just be a concept vehicle that will never see the road' shows again how out of touch you are- thats the NEW 600 Merc yes.... its the latest model of the E600- so although that is a new MODEL (the one in the photo above is the new second generation E600 lol), its not a new truck line.... The first generation E600 was released back in 2023....
Mercedes-Benz eActros LongHaul will celebrate world premiere as eActros 600 in October | Daimler Trucks Brisbane
Mercedes-Benz eActros LongHaul will celebrate world premiere as eActros 600 in October
www.daimlertrucksbrisbane.com.au
Want one???- just wander down to the Mercedes truck dealership and buy one- they are already on the road here in Australia.....
eActros | Mercedes-Benz Trucks Australia
The eActros – all-electric, powerful and ready for your mission. Whether regional transport or international long-distance haulage, you can find an eTruck that suits your business with the eActros. You can choose between two or three battery packs depending on whether you need more payload or...
www.mercedes-benz-trucks.com
And yes Mercedes have been selling them, they got them in the Australia Post fleet for their rigids with the smaller E300's...
acbytesla
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I'm with you on that. I've been to lots of car shows with concept vehicles that never see the light of day. I was sure for a long time that the Cybertruck would never ever get built. And if it did, it wouldn't be anything like the early concept model
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acbytesla
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I was shocked. It is just too gimmicky. Interesting to look at., but impractical. Virtually every year car companies show something way out of left field at car shows. They do it to create excitement and to get feedback. Since they are concept vehicles, they don't have to think it all the way through.
Sorry, delayed post, I was talking about the electric concrete truck that appears to actually be a photo in the wild with the moderately surprised not the concept truck. It's almost more surprising when the concept car makes it to market than when they don't.
ETA, @Dabop. I could just be suffering from the internet communications always seem snarkier and jerkier then they are meant to but, that's quite a reaction to my, moderately surprised? And seriously, I'm so far out of date that I'm not aware some company has just signed a deal to test some electrical vehicles? That's not really that far out of date.
And, like I said, I'm skeptical of concept vehicles at trade shows, not so much electric vehicles generally.
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SteveAitch
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Royal Mail are moving over to Peugots...Which only goes to show out of date your expectations are.....
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One of 300 ordered- back in 2018 in China... (just swap the tipper body for a concrete agitator lol)
Oh wait...
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View attachment 66403CEMENTING YOUR ELECTRIC DREAMS – HOLCIM UNVEILS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC CEMENT TRUCK IN AUSTRALIA
Concrete and building products giant, Holcim Australia has announced that along with concrete machinery and equipment maker, Putzmeister Oceania, it has signed an agreement to trial the first Aus…
And your 'I am also highly skeptical of a picture from what appears to be a trade show. Could just be a concept vehicle that will never see the road' shows again how out of touch you are- thats the NEW 600 Merc yes.... its the latest model of the E600- so although that is a new MODEL (the one in the photo above is the new second generation E600 lol), its not a new truck line.... The first generation E600 was released back in 2023....
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Mercedes-Benz eActros LongHaul will celebrate world premiere as eActros 600 in October | Daimler Trucks Brisbane
Mercedes-Benz eActros LongHaul will celebrate world premiere as eActros 600 in October
Want one???- just wander down to the Mercedes truck dealership and buy one- they are already on the road here in Australia.....
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eActros | Mercedes-Benz Trucks Australia
The eActros – all-electric, powerful and ready for your mission. Whether regional transport or international long-distance haulage, you can find an eTruck that suits your business with the eActros. You can choose between two or three battery packs depending on whether you need more payload or...
And yes Mercedes have been selling them, they got them in the Australia Post fleet for their rigids with the smaller E300's...
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Royal Mail Electric Van by SteveAitch, on FlickrDabop
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Australia Post has a variety of EVs in its fleet, from semis down to delivery trikes....
They also use Merc EVito vans
As well as the smaller trucks like the 4 tonner Fuso's
or the larger 12 tonner Mercedes...
5000 plus EVs already just in Aussie Posts fleet......
And remember this is in Australia- small population, BIG country lol
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Are you sure? I can see they've just ordered 800 electric vans, but I can't see any figures for how many they currently have.
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After seeing the Tesla truck come up short in so many ways from even its promises, its good to see the European chassis' come up as proven.
Adapting an electric drivetrain to big trucks at the factory seems the best way to use existing processes and make the eco friendly versions reality. They don't have to be stylish to haul cargo.
I would love to see those in Mexico in fleets. Scania is already here but I have only seen diesels so far.
JAC has sold some gasoline Tundra clone pickups here in town and BYD some cars of both ICE and EV.
It's Nissan that needs to start making them here as it's made in the big city west of where I am. Parts and support from nearby means trust in the model.
Adapting an electric drivetrain to big trucks at the factory seems the best way to use existing processes and make the eco friendly versions reality. They don't have to be stylish to haul cargo.
I would love to see those in Mexico in fleets. Scania is already here but I have only seen diesels so far.
JAC has sold some gasoline Tundra clone pickups here in town and BYD some cars of both ICE and EV.
It's Nissan that needs to start making them here as it's made in the big city west of where I am. Parts and support from nearby means trust in the model.
Rolfe
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Are you sure? I can see they've just ordered 800 electric vans, but I can't see any figures for how many they currently have.
Meet the electric vehicles delivering Amazon packages in the UK
From electric heavy trucks to e-bikes, here’s how Amazon is transforming deliveries for UK customers.
They've been mostly electric for quite a while. In another thread we had someone crowing that Amazon was selling off its electric van fleet and going back to ICE, bwhahahaha. What was actually happening was that Amazon was selling off a bunch (rather a lot) of vans that had seen a lot of service and were becoming outdated, to invest in more modern electric replacements. This was a while ago, maybe a couple of years.
Dabop
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Nissan sales (both in Australia and worldwide) have been poor for years, with them rarely making it into the top ten in sales here(hell Mahindra has beaten them in some years in total sales- and thats not a good thing to have on your resume lol)
This year they dropped out of the top ten manufacturers on the global level (well behind both BYD and SAIC)
Rolfe
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Nissan have made some poor decisions. After producing what could be seen as the iconic EV runabout they rested on their laurels, didn't maintain a competitive range of models, and were left by the wayside by more proactive manufacturers. Many people seem to doubt if they'll survive.
Dabop
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The Merc at the display isnt a 'concept vehicle'- its literally the new model release of an existing line (thats already been out for over two years...) the article I put in was from 2023!!!!
This is the new facelift of a truck thats been on sale for over two years now.... not a 'concept' vehicle...
You can literally go out and buy them right now in Australia- I could walk into a Mercedes truck dealership tomorrow and drive one home by tomorrow afternoon.....
eActros | Mercedes-Benz Trucks Australia
The eActros – all-electric, powerful and ready for your mission. Whether regional transport or international long-distance haulage, you can find an eTruck that suits your business with the eActros. You can choose between two or three battery packs depending on whether you need more payload or...
www.mercedes-benz-trucks.com
The concrete mixer in my photo and link is again, something thats already out and being used in the real world.... and has been for the last year.... (2024...) although the agitatoraddition is new, the chassis design isn't and has been around for half a decade now.... the first 4x8 chassis from the manufacturer rolled off the line back in 2019 and there's already over 10000 of them in service already around the world.... (and BYD has an identical 4x8 chassis thats been on the market in China since 2014!!!!)
CEMENTING YOUR ELECTRIC DREAMS – HOLCIM UNVEILS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC CEMENT TRUCK IN AUSTRALIA
Concrete and building products giant, Holcim Australia has announced that along with concrete machinery and equipment maker, Putzmeister Oceania, it has signed an agreement to trial the first Aus…
www.truckandbus.net.au
Note that this truck had been in Australia for well over a year by this stage, as it had been required (like any vehicle that is to be registered for travel on Australian roads) to undergo extensive testing to ensure it complies with the ADR (Australian Design Rules) and ANCAP (Australasian New Car Assessment Program) safety regs...
LOL programs that the Tesla 'cybertruck' tried and failed to pass...
(They have on at least two different occasions tried,a and failed- Tesla Australia keeps saying 'mayby soon'- they have been saying that since 2023, and are still no closer)
Why the Tesla Cybertruck Can’t Be Driven in Australia – Curam Ai
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Part of I think is that aside from the occasional headline about revolutionary new batteries that will revolutionize the industry in 5 to 10 years, its mostly incremental improvements. So, year over year not so much change but every 10 years or so, things have improved pretty dramatically. Also, half the cars and trucks on the road could be EV and I wouldn't really notice except for when the one sneaks up on me on a side street.
Rolfe
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When I was considering getting an EV several people said wait till the improvements in the pipeline work their way through. Eventually I said, what exactly is it I'm waiting for? The answer was no specific thing, just that there are all these incremental improvements constantly happening. So I thought, well you have to get on the train at some point. So when my petrol car was declared a write-off, I went for it. At a good time really, six months after the launch of the MG4, which turned out to be exactly what I was looking for.
acbytesla
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More like daily. The problem of course is the difference between lab experiments and turning that into a product that can be manufactured inexpensively and efficiently. Building the tooling, creating a supply channel etc. In the meantime the status quo industry is refining and marginally improving their present product. It's taken close to a decade for Lifepo4 to replace LMC. I fully expect another chemistry to replace Lifepo4 but it will take a while. I do believe that maybe zinc, sodium or sulfur is likely to replace lithium in grid applications sooner than that. I'm very interested in seeing what battery formula that will make commercial aviation a reality.
Rolfe, a lot of the world isn't far behind you in getting an EV when they can.
I certainly would.
But it has to meet the limits of the place it's going to work. 120VAC grid charging ( until solar goes on the roof) and a reliable service network for me. It's hard enough to keep stuff up most days but if it's an obsolete or unsupported model breakdown can be fatal.
Honestly for me L/A deep cycle batteries and a vehicle with a basic generic control system would be best, right now.
It's just where we are right now.
I can get those things.
I am willing to bet 5 years ahead much better is supported.
I certainly would.
But it has to meet the limits of the place it's going to work. 120VAC grid charging ( until solar goes on the roof) and a reliable service network for me. It's hard enough to keep stuff up most days but if it's an obsolete or unsupported model breakdown can be fatal.
Honestly for me L/A deep cycle batteries and a vehicle with a basic generic control system would be best, right now.
It's just where we are right now.
I can get those things.
I am willing to bet 5 years ahead much better is supported.
Rolfe
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People switch when it's the best time for them. What really annoys me is people who get a new petrol car when they're in an excellent position to get an EV, just out of inertia, or believing the FUD. If you have to change cars and an EV isn't right for you yet, for goodness sake get a used ICE car, don't bring another one into the world.