Interesting Ian
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Millionframe said:
Why don't you answer the question??
Also what is TLN correct about??
thaiboxerken
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I have to wonder if Ian's brain is properly pickled with alcohol yet.
The pressure of Paltalk is that it's LIVE. You think on your feet (so to speak), and you answer, and once you hit that <enter> key, or say what you want to say on mic, that's it, no going back and changing things.
Yes sometimes it gets smokin' in there, and people do get excited, but the back-and-forth is honest, and for the most part even civil.
Yes sometimes it gets smokin' in there, and people do get excited, but the back-and-forth is honest, and for the most part even civil.
Why, Paul? Has TLN recently developed an impressive knowledge base on these topics? Because I've never seen much from him other than persistent carping at people on most of these paranormal threads. Nor does he show much effort to actually understand the point someone he disagrees with is making.
And...seriously, TLN. I don't know why you're apparently under the impression that you bring so much to the table on these topics--that, for some reason, you feel people interested in paranormal subjects or materialism should feel some urgency to "debate" you, simply because you tell them to, over in PalTalk.
What makes you feel that debating you would be such an important, fascinating experience that any of us should feel obligated to do it--and poste haste--just because you say to!?
Clancie said:
Clancie Shield #2: You don't know enough about the topic at hand, therefore I don't need to talk to you.
Clancie, this is just plain wrong. But don't come find out for yourself, just keep your shields up.
Clancie said:
I didn't say it would be important or facinating. I suggested it as a means of making progress since, clearly, none is made on this forum.
Perhaps you don't think I "bring much to the table" because you've never followed a conversation with me in a thread; instead you just ignore me.
Clancie said:
What about you Clancie? Have you developed an impressive knowledge base on these topics? So what is the reluctance to take on TLN? Because he tries to make you feel obligated? No, he's bending over backwards to meet you and talk to you in some form other than forum. Sure, the wording he has isn't delicate, but there is no subterfuge either.
And actually, Clancie, if you came onto Paltalk, TLN does bring a lot to the table. He opens a chat room, he shares moderator power, insists on civility, and challenges every question, with the evidence he has. Homeopathy, Life After Death, Aliens, Prophetic Dreams, Spirit Guides... you name it, it's been discussed on Paltalk. The room is actually very popular; it's a place where skeptics and believers can come together in a more neutral setting. The only time someone is booted is if they are rude, or trolling.
BTW: if you come to Paltalk and pound TLN into the ground with your assertions and evidence, you for it. I love learning new things.
Well, Suezoled, he may be the salt of the earth as you've experienced him. But I don't take his bullying, unpleasant tone (even in this very thread) as very much of an "invitation" at all.
And, regarding "evidence"...he and I already understand, I'm sure, that we regard "evidence" differently (for TLN, the only "evidence" is controlled laboratory testing. I, on the other hand, don't think anecdotal evidence is "proof" of anything in itself, but I don't dismiss it as worthless, either. But...we both already know this. Frankly, I simply don't see the point.)
Clancie said:
"Bullying" is subjective and something you invoke whenever you want to ignore someone, like me. I don't bully you.
Go re-read my opening post in the Summarizing thread. I bend over backwards to be civil and diplomatic and it does me absolutely no good. You summarily dismiss me. That's your right, but don't fool yourself into thinking you're open-minded.
Clancie said:
Wrong. But believe what you will. Clearly, no one can reach you with anything.
Luciana
Skeptical Carioca
TLN said:
Absolutely not. For what my testimony is worth, I can say that TLN is not abusive - on the contrary, I've seen him many times trying to calm things down when the debate becomes too heated.
I'd like to participate in those debates too. On my side, I promise to act politely and therefore work to keep the room civil.
Checkmite
Skepticifimisticalationist
I, for one, will personally vouch for TLN in this matter. He, and the others of us who have used it, pride ourselves on the fact that we can have the deepest debate on nearly any relevant topic in his Paranormal Debate room on Paltalk, and still categorically avoid becoming hot-tempered or even annoyed, much less "abusive".
I think you're seriously misjudging TLN here. If you think I'm wrong in this assessment, you have only to join the Paranormal Debate forum when it is up, and see first hand that TLN goes nowhere near abusive.
I think you're seriously misjudging TLN here. If you think I'm wrong in this assessment, you have only to join the Paranormal Debate forum when it is up, and see first hand that TLN goes nowhere near abusive.
Where did I say he was? I said I don't like his bullying and insulting tone to me and others on these threads (including this one).
I have no idea what he's like in PalTalk. And, since my purpose in GS&P is mainly to correct misstatements about mediumship-related issues (not to make "claims") and to discuss interesting case studies that introduce "possiblities" (neither of which topic seems of particular interest to TLN), I really can't see, as I've said before, what the purpose of a Paltalk "debate" would be,
Clancie said:
Perhaps you don't like his tone and you refuse to meet him, and that's all vanilla and fudgie and well.
However, it seems a tad off that you're saying you correct misstatements when your own corrections require correcting, many times.
Paltalk is an opportunity which you are refusing to take. Too bad; it would have been interesting. I do want to point out that Patalk is neutral ground, and that TLN is more than willing to meet you halfway.
TLN said:
Oh, agreed! Italian guys from New York do that from time to time.
Frankly, I'd insist on not being the room administrator during this debate.
Scribble, have you ever watched the Psychic and Paranormal Debate Room in action? How would you characterize my behavior towards the believers I debate? Am I abusive? Do I call them names?
If anyone else has witnessed the P&P Debate Room in action, feel free to recount your experiences here, good or bad.
TLN has always done excellent in the paranormal debate room. In fact, when it was first done with another user, Paltalk wanted to put it as one of their specials.
He is fair to all, and does not allow abuse of any posters whether they are skeptic or believer in all kinds of things. He does an outstanding job at administering the room.
Clancie said:
The purpose would be to show you how your "corrections" are faulty, to show that your "corrections" make claims whether you like it or not, and to correct this cyclical pattern of you getting continually frustrated by skeptic responses which you should anticipate by now.
You don't see the point. Fine. Maybe there's a point you can't see. Is that possible? Try it and find out. What do you have to loose?
Checkmite
Skepticifimisticalationist
Clancie said:
TLN's Paranormal Debate room is not in any wise a "let's talk about what TLN wants to talk about" room. When convo gets slow, TLN comes on and practically begs visitors to bring up a paranormal topic - any paranormal topic. And TLN is by far not the only person there. I think discussing your case studies is a perfect idea, and would fit well with the room. In any case, skeptics are typically outnumbered there on the order of 3 to 1 in some cases, sometimes even more; so you shouldn't feel uncomfortable there.