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Stephen Colbert - Racist

Puppycow said:
You can say anything racist, as long as you're being ironic. It's called hipster irony.

Living in Asia (sort of), I get the sense that Asian-Asians are much more relaxed about this sort of thing than Asian-Americans are.
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It's a SJW thing, the same people who think it's racist to wear a Sombrero on Halloween. I've known many down to earth asian americans that find racial jokes like this funny. The asians from asia tend not to be SJWs.
 
I'm pretty sure Colbert was misquoted on this. I believe he meant to say "The sheriff is near."
 
It's a big deal because Colbert points out the fascist stupid in the current GOP.
 
Puppycow said:
When Homer Simpson says outrageous, risible things, people usually get it because he's obviously a fictional character. We're supposed to laugh at him, not applaud and agree with him.
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In the sitcom, Till Death Us Do Part, the character of Alf Garnett was a pretty well rounded bigot: he hated black people, Jews (actor Warren Mitchell who played Alf, was Jewish), Catholics, the unemployed, and many others. Of course the satire was lost on a lot of people. If the show were still on today, he'd probably be a UKIP (the most far-right party in Britain which isn't the National Front or BNP) councillor (that's a local politician, not a lawyer, for those not in the UK).
 
Irony said:
Stephen Colbert (col-bear), is a racist, yes, among other things.

Stephen Colbert (col-bert), is not.

It always amazes me that after all these years some people don't understand that the person on that show is a fictional character.
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Most children have no problem with this, but many adults have trouble telling fiction from reality, or in fact sarcasm with reality, analogy with reality, etc.
 
commandlinegamer said:
In the sitcom, Till Death Us Do Part, the character of Alf Garnett was a pretty well rounded bigot: he hated black people, Jews (actor Warren Mitchell who played Alf, was Jewish), Catholics, the unemployed, and many others. Of course the satire was lost on a lot of people. If the show were still on today, he'd probably be a UKIP (the most far-right party in Britain which isn't the National Front or BNP) councillor (that's a local politician, not a lawyer, for those not in the UK).
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One could also mention Archie Bunker (All in the Family). (Wasn't All in the Family inspired by Till Death Us Do Part?)

I think Bill Cosby has made comments about A Bunker and the fact that there were quite a few people who would have laughed with Archie not at him.
 
Belz... said:
Most children have no problem with this, but many adults have trouble telling fiction from reality, or in fact sarcasm with reality, analogy with reality, etc.
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Maybe - but then, when does Stephen Colbert (real) ever tend to appear or present himself as Stephen Colbert (real)? Anytime I ever see Stephen Colbert (real) it's without exception in-character as Stephen Colbert (fictional).

Sacha Cohen is another one who it seems has decided he cannot be seen in public, or at least cannot interact with the media, except as one of his characters. It's a bit tiresome by now, to be honest.
 
Checkmite said:
Maybe - but then, when does Stephen Colbert (real) ever tend to appear or present himself as Stephen Colbert (real)? Anytime I ever see Stephen Colbert (real) it's without exception in-character as Stephen Colbert (fictional).
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I think I remember a Charlie Rose interview with him on PBS.

Here's a bit of it:
 
ravdin said:
If you think this is racist, I sure hope you never watch a movie like Trading Places or Blazing Saddles.
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People were less whiny about race in the 70s and 80s.

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I guarantee most Asians living in Japan, Korea, China, etc. wouldn't be offended. It's only Americans who get offended so much about race. Also the UK seems to have a stick up their bum about it.
 
We have to create a couple of distinctions when categorizing these kinds of jokes, I believe. It confuses the conservatives so much that we need to properly label them.

There are Racist jokes. They are jokes about how pathetic racists are and essentially make fun of them for holding these positions. These are the ones that rile up the conservatives, who trot out their Coulter and shout, "See!!!??? Libruls are racismists. We love minorities, we do and we have their best interests at heart, so vote for us!"

Then there are Race jokes. Those, we don't repeat. I wouldn't ask you "What's brown and black and looks good on a MINORITY OF YOUR CHOICE?.... A Rottweiler!" because that would be insensitive and wrong.

Now, race or racial jokes don't necessarily mean the teller is a racist. I can swap Jew jokes with a lot of Jewish people and N-word jokes with a lot of blacks. But let's not tell that to the conservatives, okay? The need to understand nuance makes their heads spin. I'm sure there aren't any reading the thread anyway, what with the JREF Forums being a bastion of liberal/progressive/socialist/marxist-leaning posters.
 
I don't watch it as frequently as I used to, but I'm pretty sure he introduced that character/joke in the first few weeks the show premiered; looked like they just re-used the clip.
 
jj said:
It's a big deal because Colbert points out the fascist stupid in the current GOP.
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Yeah, he was actually commenting on the Washington redskins name...

But any chance to slam the GOP. When you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail, huh?
 
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