devnull
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Who the hell smacks their kids in the face?
Spanking children doesn't work.
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Who the hell smacks their kids in the face?
Belz...
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My mom. Very rarely did, but still.
One of the best statements I've read on this site - and like the late Prof. Chris Barnard, you are a man after my own heart.
Muslims 'cos the bruises can't be seen due to the hijab they wear.
My experience is that it is easier to pick up a child than to pick up a child and then spank the child.
No, your assessment was irrelevant.
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But ultimately correct, I gather. Sorry to out you.
Regardless of that, I managed without hitting mine when they were highly inquisitive toddlers. HTTR said that they didn't either.
My mother did it. At least one of my sisters did. The woman who caught her son in the Baltimore riots last year did it repeatedly, and she caught a lot of positive reactions on Social Media and even in the press.
Dr. Keith used the word "easy" and you are calling it "trivial." I'm a parent, and I would agree it's easy but not trivial. If I couldn't easily pick up my child and move him or her out of danger, I wouldn't put that child anywhere near a bull. That would be recklessly endangering my child.
The irony here is that using pain as an aversion technique is not reliable, especially when they, as you say, are stubborn (and impulsive).
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I'm not a parent, but working in the arts and teaching, I deal with kids a lot, and I often work with daycare centers.
Daycare centers manage dozens of children. Many even take them not just outside, but to parks or other attractions many blocks away along city streets. If you live in an area with daycare centers, you'll see them with the stroller "busses" for littlest ones and the 3-4s holding onto a rope.
Within a half a mile of my theater, there are probably ten or more of these centers. I'll assure you the daycare workers aren't spanking the kids, and also that these kids aren't dying in traffic left and right.
There's no question that it's difficult to stop kids from hurting themselves, but if these daycare workers can keep so many kids alive all day without spanking, then it's difficult for me to believe its a herculean task to wrangle one kid without hitting him.
Daycare centers manage dozens of children. Many even take them not just outside, but to parks or other attractions many blocks away along city streets. If you live in an area with daycare centers, you'll see them with the stroller "busses" for littlest ones and the 3-4s holding onto a rope.
Within a half a mile of my theater, there are probably ten or more of these centers. I'll assure you the daycare workers aren't spanking the kids, and also that these kids aren't dying in traffic left and right.
There's no question that it's difficult to stop kids from hurting themselves, but if these daycare workers can keep so many kids alive all day without spanking, then it's difficult for me to believe its a herculean task to wrangle one kid without hitting him.
But ultimately correct, I gather. Sorry to out you.
You gather wrong, and still it is an irrelevant point.
You are comparing highly paid well trained professionals to the average parent. That's not fair.
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You are comparing highly paid well trained professionals to the average parent. That's not fair.
I hope you were being sarcastic about the highly paid, well trained thing, smilies are hard to read on a phone!
I've discussed this subject with friends before and have an anecdote to share. I think that physical punishment should be used sparely (if it's needed at all). I've had to whip my step-son once. Around age 13 he started lighting fires in his bedroom at night; burning notebook paper from what we could tell.
The first time his mom discovered this we had a family meeting, that included the grandparents, and discussed the dangers involved and removed some privileges. He was old enough to be reasoned with and we laid out all of the problems involved: didn't want to lose the house, have anyone injured/die, etc. After the second time, there was the same talk and privileges were revoked for a longer period. The third time we found that a fire had been started, I whipped him. He has started no further fires in the house. (He graduates high school this year and is headed to college
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Maybe this was an extreme case, but when reasoning fails and lives are in danger, you need someway to grab a person's attention.
The first time his mom discovered this we had a family meeting, that included the grandparents, and discussed the dangers involved and removed some privileges. He was old enough to be reasoned with and we laid out all of the problems involved: didn't want to lose the house, have anyone injured/die, etc. After the second time, there was the same talk and privileges were revoked for a longer period. The third time we found that a fire had been started, I whipped him. He has started no further fires in the house. (He graduates high school this year and is headed to college
)Maybe this was an extreme case, but when reasoning fails and lives are in danger, you need someway to grab a person's attention.
Belz...
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You know you're just a child abuser, right?
(I'm being sarcastic. I'm telling you just this once so you get to know me a bit better.
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Yeah...I remember when Mom slapped Sis in the face about 50 years ago...it ended up really bad. Sis turned the other cheek...literally. As a result, mom cursed her then ran off and cried. Mom regretted doing that for over 40 years.
Seriously, my Sister is made from the same stuff as Saints...and you just don't slap a Saint.
Bit over kill for one slap.
Not that I would do it
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Belz...
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Yeah the one time I really remember, mom slapped me in the face out of frustration because I talked back to her. I think in that instance she was wrong to do it.
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