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So it begins. Birthright Citizenship repeal

You can't really compare nominal numbers to relative numbers when you start talking about likelihood, though.
 
A Laughing Baby said:
The second point, sure. I'll agree with that. And I think a change of birthright citizenship is a bad idea. But I really don't think that it's true that all illegal aliens (from whatever country) pay taxes. That's an awfully big blanket statement to make.
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There are government estimates that between 50 and 75% of undocumented immigrants file tax returs with the IRS. Of course, most live at or below the poverty line so the taxes paid are not that significant.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Why should that be a concern or any reason why the law should not be taken on its own merit?
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It's a concern because it speaks to who we are as a people if we allow extremists to dictate public policy and set laws.

However, if you insist, I will stick to the merits, if there are any.

Nope. The merits to the proposed law suck. how's that?
 
Next talking point: if they're undocumented, how does the government know they're paying taxes??? Huh, smart guy????

Just wait for it. It's coming.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
It's a concern because it speaks to who we are as a people if we allow extremists to dictate public policy and set laws.

However, if you insist, I will stick to the merits, if there are any.

Nope. The merits to the proposed law suck. how's that?
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Much better. Thank you.

I am really close to agreeing with you on this subject. But I still completely disagree with the first line in this post.
 
Scapegoating immigrants is a perennial favorite with a particular kind of political manipulation. I think it fits right in with, for example, the way Southern Democrats used to court poor whites by scapegoating blacks. It can make the otherwise downtrodden working class feel superior to another class of people (and therefore under the delusion that they aren't the bottom rung of society but can count themselves as "middle class").

It's also an easy way to challenge an incumbent by claiming that the complex problems we face can be simplified to something that isn't a significant factor in these problems (and probably has a net positive effect).
 
Titanic Explorer said:
This might put a hitch in the Republican wet dream of having Arnold run for president.
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I don't think the GOP are all that enamored of Arnold, anymore.

MattusMaximus said:
ETA: One substantive thing which will come out of all this stupidity is the fact that the Republican party is essentially destroying any chance of gaining ground among the Hispanic-American population; in fact, they seem to be doing all they can, in a misguided bid to appease the Tea Party wingnuts, to actively drive Hispanic citizens towards the Democrats. Idiots.
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Lucky for the them that Hispanics aren't a growing proportion of our population, or they might really be in trouble.

Oh, wait. . . .
 
Thunder said:
I'll say it again: America's immigration policies should exactly mirror Mexico's.

whatever they do, we should do.
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Children physically born in Mexico automatically have Mexican nationality, regardless of the nationality of thier parents.
 
BREAKING NEWS

Steve King is out, and Rep. Elton Gallegly of California is the new Chair of the Immigration committee.

Not a sustentative change as Gallegly is just as right wing as King, he's just less prone to idiotic statements. Too bad.
 
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