Same missile?

[applecorped]

Prove it Sherlock.

 

[boloboffin]

Saying that WTC 7 was one of the intended targets of the plot is one of the more silly statements made by members of the 9/11 Truth Movement.

The other three buildings attacked were the two towers and the Pentagon. The significance of 7 pales to these buildings and ignores the pattern established in New York where one attack draws attention and the next is broadcast all over the world. Since the third attack happened in Washington, the fourth target had to be there, and was most likely meant to be the Capitol Building. After the Pentagon attack, people would have been scanning the skies and the cameras would have been rolling in plenty of time to watch United 93 plow into the Rotunda Dome.

Building 7 as the final target doesn't fit the M.O.

 

[Galileo]

Whaaat? What website says this!? This is the first I've ever heard form anyone of the truth movement, that 93 was even remotely intended for WTC7. I'd be interested to see who made this claim first...

I smell far-fetched in the air...

I, Galileo Galilei, son of Vincenzio, am making the claim.

FL93 was stuck in the runway for about 40 minutes, so by the time it was hijacked, it was too late to get back to New York and had to be shot down.

If you look at the flight path of FL93, you'll see that it turned directly towards NYC before it began its final crash to the ground.

Also, there were several reports of another plane (some mentioned in this thread) that another plane was headed for the WTC. That was FL93 headed for WTC 7. Those reports came out before it was realized that FL93 had been delayed.

Since WTC 7 was loaded with explosives (FL93 would not cause global collapse), they had to improvise. They put out a rumor that WTC 7 would fall from fire and then they blew it to kingdom come.

The story that FL93 was headed towards Washington is bogus, there is no one on FL93 saying that, it was a just a story to scare the bejsus out of us.

 

[BenBurch]

In fact, 7 would have been hard to hit; Too much terrain in the form of tall buildings around it.

And why would you go through the trouble of setting up the "inside job" of having it hit and then ALSO go shoot it down?

No, it came down because of the passenger revolt and nothing else, first, and second it was likely going after a real target. TMI's spent fuel pool is one good one. Another would have been the Union Carbide plant at Institute WV. Either would have made a large bit of land uninhabitable for a while and would serve the terrorists' ends really well.

 

[Dog Town]

Since the third attack happened in Washington, the fourth target had to be there,...

When I have this conversation in the real world, I always have to correct this.
Arlington, VA., is where the Pentagon is located.

 

[applecorped]

I, Galileo Galilei, son of Vincenzio, am making the claim.

FL93 was stuck in the runway for about 40 minutes, so by the time it was hijacked, it was too late to get back to New York and had to be shot down.

If you look at the flight path of FL93, you'll see that it turned directly towards NYC before it began its final crash to the ground.

Also, there were several reports of another plane (some mentioned in this thread) that another plane was headed for the WTC. That was FL93 headed for WTC 7. Those reports came out before it was realized that FL93 had been delayed.

Since WTC 7 was loaded with explosives (FL93 would not cause global collapse), they had to improvise. They put out a rumor that WTC 7 would fall from fire and then they blew it to kingdom come.

The story that FL93 was headed towards Washington is bogus, there is no one on FL93 saying that, it was a just a story to scare the bejsus out of us.

Prove it Sherlock,

 

[Galileo]

Saying that WTC 7 was one of the intended targets of the plot is one of the more silly statements made by members of the 9/11 Truth Movement.

The other three buildings attacked were the two towers and the Pentagon. The significance of 7 pales to these buildings and ignores the pattern established in New York where one attack draws attention and the next is broadcast all over the world. Since the third attack happened in Washington, the fourth target had to be there, and was most likely meant to be the Capitol Building. After the Pentagon attack, people would have been scanning the skies and the cameras would have been rolling in plenty of time to watch United 93 plow into the Rotunda Dome.

Building 7 as the final target doesn't fit the M.O.

FL93 was supposed to hit WTC 7 after the WTC, but before the Pentagon. There was a 17 minute gap in between WTC 1 and WTC 2, but a 34 minute gap between WTC 2 and the Pentagon.

A hit on WTC 7 at 9:20 spaces each hit out by 17 minutes. That's perfect, because TV shows often go 17 minutes between commercials. 9/11 was a movie-length docu-drama.

WTC 7 was supposed to fall at about 10:45, which spaces things out nicley:

Was 10:45 a.m. the Originally Planned Demolition Time of WTC 7?
http://www.911blogger.com/node/15318

So the original plan was:

1) hit WTC 1

2) hit WTC 2

3) hit WTC 7

4) hit the Pentagon

5) WTC 2 falls

6) WTC 1 falls

7) WTC 7 falls

note - the collapse of WTC 1 and 2 may have been intended to be reversed. The fires in WTC 2 were going out at 9:40, no visible flames were seen after that time, so they had to do WTC 2 first so it wasn't too obvious.

 

[Alt+F4]

Since WTC 7 was loaded with explosives (FL93 would not cause global collapse), they had to improvise. They put out a rumor that WTC 7 would fall from fire and then they blew it to kingdom come.

Might you mind providing a few more details? How was WTC 7 loaded with explosives? Why do you think the "bad guys" (who are they, btw?) wanted to destroy that building?

 

[Grizzly Bear]

note - the collapse of WTC 1 and 2 may have been intended to be reversed. The fires in WTC 2 were going out at 9:40, no visible flames were seen after that time,

You do realize the scale of both towers right? The only thing exterior visible fires gave was the lowend of what they probably were.

so they had to do WTC 2 first so it wasn't too obvious.

It was obvious to most rational people that the impact area had double the loads that the 1st tower had to carry... and that it stood for half as long. It doesn't take a structural engineer to realize that...

I, Galileo Galilei, son of Vincenzio, am making the claim

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Since WTC 7 was loaded with explosives (FL93 would not cause global collapse), they had to improvise. They put out a rumor that WTC 7 would fall from fire and then they blew it to kingdom come.

Give me one reason to believe that fire couldn't possibly have weakened the steel enough? The criticism on the fire proofing isn't enough here. Fire proofing has a standard rating of 3 hours as a last line of defense in protecting the structure. The building burned for 6 to 8 hours and that was beyond the ability for the protective fireproofing ratings assigned to the floor assemblies.

And a plane wouldn't cause global collapse? How do you know? The design of WTC 7 is nothing like WTC 1 & 2...

 

[eeyore1954]

FL93 was supposed to hit WTC 7 after the WTC, but before the Pentagon. There was a 17 minute gap in between WTC 1 and WTC 2, but a 34 minute gap between WTC 2 and the Pentagon.

A hit on WTC 7 at 9:20 spaces each hit out by 17 minutes. That's perfect, because TV shows often go 17 minutes between commercials. 9/11 was a movie-length docu-drama.

WTC 7 was supposed to fall at about 10:45, which spaces things out nicley:

Was 10:45 a.m. the Originally Planned Demolition Time of WTC 7?
http://www.911blogger.com/node/15318

So the original plan was:

1) hit WTC 1

2) hit WTC 2

3) hit WTC 7

4) hit the Pentagon

5) WTC 2 falls

6) WTC 1 falls

7) WTC 7 falls

note - the collapse of WTC 1 and 2 may have been intended to be reversed. The fires in WTC 2 were going out at 9:40, no visible flames were seen after that time, so they had to do WTC 2 first so it wasn't too obvious.

The amazing thing is I think you actually believe you know all this without a shred of evidence unless you were in on it also.

I don't know if it is more amazing than the missile into WTC 7 at 9:03 that no one noticed or Jamonious' flat earth theory.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Whaaat? What website says this!? This is the first I've ever heard form anyone of the truth movement, that 93 was even remotely intended for WTC7. I'd be interested to see who made this claim first...

I smell far-fetched in the air...

It's an astoundingly weak attempt to explain why WTC7 was inexplicably "blowed up".

It also, baffling, ignores the symbolism of the targets: Twin Towers = capitalism, Pentagon = military, WTC7 = umm... capitalism again?

The actual target for Flight 93 is believed to be either the White House or the Capital Building, which are symbols of our government. Makes sense to me.

Since Galileo believes the collapse of WTC7 was somehow suspicious and Flight 93 obviously didn't make it to its intended target, this is his attempt to fill in a perceived hole with cheap bubble gum...

 

[pomeroo]

There was no missile strike on WTC 7, you must be a paid disinformation agent (joke).

Its true that FL93 was headed directly for WTC 7, but it was shot down before it could make it.

Stop lying. It is untrue that Flight 93 was headed for WTC 7. Flight 93 was headed for the Capitol or the White House. No conspiracy you can invent--none that you can even imagine--would select an obscure building when higher-profile targets were available. The reason may be hard for you to understand, but is really quite simple: attacking WTC 7 makes no sense.

 

[BenBurch]

Stop lying. It is untrue that Flight 93 was headed for WTC 7. Flight 93 was headed for the Capitol or the White House. No conspiracy you can invent--none that you can even imagine--would select an obscure building when higher-profile targets were available. The reason may be hard for you to understand, but is really quite simple: attacking WTC 7 makes no sense.

I still argue for TMI or Institute because that is what I would have done...

(Good thing I'm not a Jihadist, eh?)

 

[pomeroo]

I, Galileo Galilei, son of Vincenzio, am making the claim.

FL93 was stuck in the runway for about 40 minutes, so by the time it was hijacked, it was too late to get back to New York and had to be shot down.

If you look at the flight path of FL93, you'll see that it turned directly towards NYC before it began its final crash to the ground.

Also, there were several reports of another plane (some mentioned in this thread) that another plane was headed for the WTC. That was FL93 headed for WTC 7. Those reports came out before it was realized that FL93 had been delayed.

Since WTC 7 was loaded with explosives (FL93 would not cause global collapse), they had to improvise. They put out a rumor that WTC 7 would fall from fire and then they blew it to kingdom come.

The story that FL93 was headed towards Washington is bogus, there is no one on FL93 saying that, it was a just a story to scare the bejsus out of us.

You're taking the collapse of your evil movement rather hard. Look, it's over--the good guys won.

Incidentally, you've been caught lying again. There were no explosives in WTC 7. There is no "they." Your imaginary conspiracy is complete nonsense: it doesn't--can't!--exist.

 

[gumboot]

If you look at the flight path of FL93, you'll see that it turned directly towards NYC before it began its final crash to the ground.

No it wasn't. It was heading SE when it crashed, away from New York (which was north of its position). Moments before the impact it turned even further south, and even further from New York.

 

[Dave Rogers]

I, Galileo Galilei, son of Vincenzio, am making the claim.

Weren't you saying just last week that we shouldn't take statements seriously if they were made by dead people?

Dave

 

[sts60]

Since WTC 7 was loaded with explosives (FL93 would not cause global collapse), they had to improvise.

Your evidence-free assertions are of no particular interest.

They put out a rumor that WTC 7 would fall from fire

No. FDNY observed unambiguous collapse indicators well before WTC 7 fell. Those are not "rumors".

and then they blew it to kingdom come

Either your observational skills or your descriptive skills are singularly week. The building did not blow up; it collapsed.

 

[WildCat]

Missiles don't flap their wings MaGZ.

 

[Furi]

Arrrgh!!!!! the thread it burns
*Attends to Blisters caused by the 1.5Mwtf airburtst Woosplosion*
*pulls up chair*
WOW! I need the absolutely huge Daddy sized popcorn smiley

Remember Kids When you see the flash, Duck and Cover


And depending on distance, Sizzle i


Funny I never saw a mention of Bert The Turt. getting boiled in his own shell

 

[Viper Daimao]

I still argue for TMI or Institute because that is what I would have done...

(Good thing I'm not a Jihadist, eh?)

While that's a possibility, it doesn't seem to fit their MO as Cl1mh4224rd showed. The attacks, to me at least, appeared very symbolic, and not focused on maximizing death totals or destruction.