Reptilians Dilmun

[Nex]

Re: Re: Reptilians Dilmun

How, how, how, did she identify Demosthenes as an ancient god of alchemy?

http://www.crystalinks.com/demosthenes2.html

 

[drkitten]

Re: Re: Re: Reptilians Dilmun

http://www.crystalinks.com/demosthenes2.html

Did anyone else notice the rules for a Role-Playing Game embedded in there?

From the cited website
Initiate Membership

Initiatehood is ostensibly open to anyone with mastery of a knowledge skill. The Guilds all additionally require that the applicant have served his time as an apprentice whereupon they become journeymen in their guild and receive licenses to practice within their town. These people have status within their towns and will usually start practising in a company of their guild if they cannot afford to set up by themselves. Anyone with mastery of a Lore skill is a sage, but colleges will insist that a sage have passed his degree unless he has made a name for himself in his field of knowledge. Initiates must sacrifice three points of power on a Holy Day, five points on a High Holy Day.

A sage may receive full cost tuition in any knowledge skill and free access to the library provided he spends an equal amount of time lecturing; if a member of the college, he need only spend half this time lecturing. Guildsmen pay a tithe to the guild.

Initiates may purchase all Battlemagic at normal cost plus all Detection spells, Glue, Ignite, Inking, Mind Speech and Smallsee all at half price.

There is of course, nothing to stop a guildsman from purchasing training from the Sages, however the guild will not allow him to lecture in guild knowledge skills at the college and he must either pay in cash or else lecture in some other skill. As the colleges and the guilds are facets of an Harmonious, Orderly cult, the respective hierarchies will co-operate to ensure this rule is enforced.

Initiates may sacrifice for all runemagic non-reusably save for those spells labelled "Alchemists only". In addition, upon initiating they may select one Runespell to be reusable, this must be a one point spell, and they may sacrifice for as many points as they please.

Runelord Membership - The Masters

When the initiate has mastery of five knowledge skills including Read/Write in a language, then he may apply for the status of Master. The Guilds insist that the primary and secondary skills are those being mastered, the sages are of course more lax. The guilds refer to their Runelords as Masters of their respective Guilds. The Runelord sage is referred to as a Loremaster; his skills are usually Lores and knowledges rather than mundane artisan skills.

An applicant has to convince a board of examiners in a test of 10% per mastered knowledge skill plus POW, INT and CHA, there may be a bonus if he has made his mark in whatever field he has selected. If unsuccessful, he must master a new knowledge skill and wait at least one year before reapplying. If successful, he is inaugurated on the Storm season Holy Day in anticipation of the High Holy Day when he spends his time in prayer.

All Runelord Masters are expected to spend All Deities' Day in prayer and feasting, they are expected to oversee underlings and ensure their proper training. In the Guilds their activities are highly regulated but they can make some considerable money within their professions. The sages do not make money unless they can sell their knowledge skills and the colleges usually rely on charity of some form. The sages have few restrictions and those not in colleges may do as they please. Colleges usually demand a sage keeps students and writes scrolls and books on his subjects for the library.

Masters may attune iron though they only receive token items from the cult. Brewers receive ironware stills; Apothecaries, iron pestle and mortar; Scribes, iron daggers for cutting quills; and Sages receive handsome rune metal trimmed gowns. They gain Runelord divints and familiars plus all other Runelord benefits, though only their knowledge skills or those directly related to cult business may rise above 100%. Usually any small animal may be used as familiars though most cultists favour owls. There is no POW maintenance requirements and they sacrifice for all cult runemagic reusably save for those spells intended for Alchemists alone and additionally may select one type of elemental to summon reusably. All their dexterity skills are limited to DEX x 5%.

The biggest benefit to the Master status is the purchase of the skills Analysis and Synthesis. These skills make him an erstwhile Alchemist and entitle him to use the Alchemist runespells non-reusably. When he has mastered one skill, he is an Alchemist and may then use these reusably. Alchemists are at the peak of their professions and can use their skills to elucidate how things work and explore the world within their laboratories; training may occur by normal training or by research from books and experiments, the latter is double time.

Runespell Compatibility

Demosthenes masters gain access to the following standard runespells. Dismiss Elemental I, Divination, Divine Intervention, Extension I II & III, Matrix Creation, Spell Teaching and Warding. Demosthenes' Divination works only within the realms of Alchemical matters for Demosthenes is only concerned with pure knowledge. The cult also gains access to the following cult special runespells, those labelled "A" are only reusable to a master of either Analysis or Synthesis.

etc., etc.

Boy, tell me where to sign for the cult special runespells.

Do you think she stole the material from an RPG and didn't read it, or do you think she can't tell the difference between her fantasy life and her real one?

 

[Yaotl]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Reptilians Dilmun

Did anyone else notice the rules for a Role-Playing Game embedded in there?




etc., etc.

Boy, tell me where to sign for the cult special runespells.

Do you think she stole the material from an RPG and didn't read it, or do you think she can't tell the difference between her fantasy life and her real one?

That's just even sadder now.

 

[Goshawk]

Do you think she stole the material from an RPG and didn't read it, or do you think she can't tell the difference between her fantasy life and her real one?

Whoops, new drkitten, you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick there--the crystalinks.com "Demosthenes" page isn't EarthSister's page. Her page is theprojectatearth.com.

Crystalinks.com is a huge "one-stop shopping for all your woo needs" website. I don't think EarthSister is Ellie Crystal. If she is, why would she need a separate domain name for her journals?

Plus Ellie has already had a book published, she wouldn't be forlornly looking for a publisher for her journals.

So EarthSister isn't guilty of snitching any rules from a RPG. Somebody else at crystalinks.com perpetrated that.

Nex just posted the crystalinks.com page about Demosthenes to answer Dr. Adequate's question, "Where did she get that Demosthenes was an ancient god of alchemy?" Obviously it's out there floating around the Internet, where she picked it up.

 

[Dr Adequate]

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Did anyone else notice the rules for a Role-Playing Game embedded in there?

Do you think she stole the material from an RPG and didn't read it, or do you think she can't tell the difference between her fantasy life and her real one?

That is truely the worst piece of research I've ever seen.

She stole her text from this RPG and now this stuff is all over the Web. Google on Demosthenes alchemy and see what I mean. Hold my hand, I'm scared.

There are so many woos out there that RPG material should have a mental health warning on it: "This is not true. If you believe this, your brain will melt in 10... 9... 8..."

 

[Yaotl]

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That is truely the worst piece of research I've ever seen.

She stole her text from this RPG and now this stuff is all over the Web. Google on Demosthenes alchemy and see what I mean. Hold my hand, I'm scared.

There are so many woos out there that RPG material should have a mental health warning on it: "This is not true. If you believe this, your brain will melt in 10... 9... 8..."

Holy crap in a handbasket, I think my this-is-just-sad meter just broke.

 

[geni]

Demosthenes is also a character in the wildly popular sci-fi series Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. My husband's nutty for that series... it's really good.

Demosthenes is a not that character's name but the name they use to write policial comentry.

 

[Goshawk]

She stole her text from this RPG and

Um...okay...guys? Again...that's not EarthSister's "Demosthenes" web page--that's psychic Ellie Crystal's crystalinks dot com web page. EarthSister didn't steal anything. Go back and check the sequence of links again. And see my previous post to Newdrkitten.

Obviously somebody somewhere DID steal some RPG text, but it wasn't EarthSister. It was whoever wrote that "Demosthenes" piece that crystalinks.com posted.

In all fairness even to woos...

 

[Yaotl]

Um...okay...guys? Again...that's not EarthSister's "Demosthenes" web page--that's psychic Ellie Crystal's crystalinks dot com web page. EarthSister didn't steal anything. Go back and check the sequence of links again. And see my previous post to Newdrkitten.

Obviously somebody somewhere DID steal some RPG text, but it wasn't EarthSister. It was whoever wrote that "Demosthenes" piece that crystalinks.com posted.

In all fairness even to woos...

Is Ellie Crystal not a woman then?

 

[Dr Adequate]

Um...okay...guys? Again...that's not EarthSister's "Demosthenes" web page--that's psychic Ellie Crystal's crystalinks dot com web page. EarthSister didn't steal anything. Go back and check the sequence of links again. And see my previous post to Newdrkitten.

Obviously somebody somewhere DID steal some RPG text, but it wasn't EarthSister. It was whoever wrote that "Demosthenes" piece that crystalinks.com posted.

In all fairness even to woos...

What I posted:

Re: Reptilians Dilmun

Originally posted by Meaty Curtains
http://www.crystalinks.com/dilmun.html

How, how, how, did she identify Demosthenes as an ancient god of alchemy? I see from Google that this is a popular delusion amongst alchemists, but... why? Are we still talking about the author of the Philippics?

We're talking about Ellie Crystal, not Earth Sister.

 

[Goshawk]

K.


can't keep the woos straight without a program...

 

[geni]

For the record the great internet mersenne prime search found a 42nd mersenne prime February 18, 2005. It is 2^25,964,951-1 so it appears that the internet is better than anything the aliens have.

 

[turtle]

Let me tell you a story, EarthSister. This is a 100% true story.

Hmm, well, you merely telling us that it's "100% true" doesn't make it so. All we have is your say so. Can you prove this?

My father was involved in flying saucer research for the government. Information about it leaked out - an enterprising reporter snapped a picture of it. The government, of course, covered it up.

Says you.

Interested? Now let me fill in the blanks.
My dad was an aircraft engineer for Avro Canada. In the mid 1950's, they experimented with VTOL aircraft that were disk-shaped and were powered by a vertical centrally-mounted turbofan. It was an attempt to build a funky helicopter, basically.

Any armchair UFO researcher/scholar/student/hobbyist knows all about Avro. Does this prove that all UFOs are merely man made machines? Of course not.

It didn't work. They got about 60 feet off the ground and that was about it. Just one of those funny experiments from the heyday of aviation research. Of course, this is the height of the cold war, so everything involving planes is classified up the wazoo to keep those evil Russians from stealing our ideas and using them to nuke us with.

It was also, coincidentally, during one of the periods when flying saucers were all the rage in pop culture, so when a leaked picture shows up in a newspaper, you can imagine the speculation: somebody's experimenting with a secret flying saucer.

Someone may indeed have been experimenting with flying saucers. That doesn't mean they were wrong in seeing things. Or that the saucers were from another planet. Or, that they weren't. And your statement that this was when flying saucers "were all the rage" is open to debate.

Of course, both the Canadian and American governments' reaction to this is entirely predictable: no comment. It's a classified military research project, after all. Of course, that just added fuel to the fire: not only was there a flying saucer, but the governments are covering it up!

For the rest of his life, the old man laughed out loud at any mention of Hanger 18, Area 51, or any other rumor of captured saucers.

Sure he did. Accoding to you, and if we are to believe you. For the sake of the discussion, we'll say we do. So, maybe he laughed because he was brainwashed. Or knew of things so huge and horrifying he could never reveal the "truth." Or he was being threatened or blackmailed. Or he just plain didn't know a damn thing about any saucers, alien or otherwise, except for the one he worked on. Doesn't mean a thing.

So when I ask for objective evidence, I need something that isn't a minor incident that's been blown out of proportion by over-excitable people. Don't tell me a story about a saucer that turns out to be a really dumb way to build a helicopter.

And no, my dad was not a government disinformation agent, and neither am I. Sheesh.

We only have your statement on this. How do we know you're telling the truth? We don't. It's just a story. That's all.