Reptilians Dilmun

[geni]

Won't you wonder if I could have stolen it from somebody else?

No human could have it. The amount of computing power you would need to find it is hunge. Even the great internet Mersenne prime search will take a while to get there so you've gat a fair sized window to get an answer.

 

[EarthSister]

Anders

I have been speaking in public and private for over 14 years about my own alien experiences and what I am learning. I cannot count the times people have tried to test me like this. The aliens never play this kind of game because of the ramifications there would be on my unassuming, precarious position. Besides that, it would not prove what people presume it would prove.

 

[Hellbound]

Anders

I have been speaking in public and private for over 14 years about my own alien experiences and what I am learning. I cannot count the times people have tried to test me like this. The aliens never play this kind of game because of the ramifications there would be on my unassuming, precarious position. Besides that, it would not prove what people presume it would prove.

Translation: I can't give you an answer because there are no aliens, or if they are they are the product of my own delusions and as such, cannot give me any knowledge I don't already have.

Got it.

Next!

 

[Anders]

Anders

I have been speaking in public and private for over 14 years about my own alien experiences and what I am learning. I cannot count the times people have tried to test me like this. The aliens never play this kind of game because of the ramifications there would be on my unassuming, precarious position. Besides that, it would not prove what people presume it would prove.

If I had gotten a dollar every time I heard that, I would have at least enough for a McDonalds meal right now!

Listen to me carefully: You have not had any alien experiences. You don not have contact with any aliens, except mayby for illegal aliens from Mexico. We don't trust you the same way a court would not trust your lack of evidence.

If you really had any experiences they were a) psychological b) caused be chemical substances c) astronomical, d) other. But always natural and fully explainable without the ET hypothesis!

I think, judging from you website, that you probably should get another hobby! Astronomy (real astronomy), play videogames, go to the movies now and the, watch CNN now and then, take up jogging, learn a new language (A real one, like Spanish, or German), anything that would fill up your life with something perhaps a little more fulfilling, and interesting.

 

[Operaider]

Sister, what is the point in your meetings with the aliens? I mean, you clearly are unable to produce anything truly informative. You, and others like you, aren't solving any of the many problems on earth. Even though it seems well within the means of your alien buddies. All the "information" you give us seems to be taken straight from sci fi movies with a healthy dose of new age spirituality thrown in. Nothing really creative there.

So I'm asking, what exactly is the point of these visits? Surly you've asked them that. And if it's to impart some wisdom upon us mere humans, could you please tell them that no ones buying it because they've yet to provide you with what we humans call "proof".

 

[EarthSister]

If I had gotten a dollar every time I heard that, I would have at least enough for a McDonalds meal right now!

Listen to me carefully: You have not had any alien experiences. You don not have contact with any aliens, except mayby for illegal aliens from Mexico. We don't trust you the same way a court would not trust your lack of evidence.

If you really had any experiences they were a) psychological b) caused be chemical substances c) astronomical, d) other. But always natural and fully explainable without the ET hypothesis!

I think, judging from you website, that you probably should get another hobby! Astronomy (real astronomy), play videogames, go to the movies now and the, watch CNN now and then, take up jogging, learn a new language (A real one, like Spanish, or German), anything that would fill up your life with something perhaps a little more fulfilling, and interesting.

Anders

I am not asking you or anyone to believe me. If you don't want to talk about alien life, don't talk about it. If you do want to talk about it, add something constructive. If you have no interest or belief at all, well, maybe your abilities are suited to a different area of the message boards.

Not everyone agrees with everything everyone else thinks about something or has the same interests. That is why we have such a variety of boards and topics to post on. It's not polite to enter an unfamiliar area where you believe nothing just to bother those who have something to say there.

You don't have to already believe something to explore the possibilities of it. From what I can see, most people think that alien life is real. Many think alien life is visiting Earth. But most people do not have much of an idea of what is true about it. There are documented reasons for all of that, but what are these things we are documenting, huh? Anything but other life in the Universe, you say? You've been around and you know that, right?

Many people have personal experiences with alien life, whether they are just sightings of obvious alien crafts, or personal contact with alien people, and these numbers are growing all the time. It is a natural fact that those who do not experience these incredible things, find it "very" difficult to believe. But still, subjects of alien life are prominent ongoing mysteries and the second most popular topic on the Internet.

Whatever you think or believe already in your puny, primitive human life (no offense) if you don't know anything about the aliens, you can't think or believe anything about them. You have to start somewhere. But why be here just to make nowhere comments against others who have more to say than you do?

Besides that, there are mature, respectful ways of disagreeing with others that do not interfere with the conversation. Conversation is what this place is made for, isn't it?

PS Ditto for huntsman.

 

[Zombified]

I am not asking you or anyone to believe me.

Why object when people say they don't believe you, then?

If you don't want to talk about alien life, don't talk about it.

We do.

If you do want to talk about it, add something constructive.

We have. Here it is: we would like to see real evidence of alien life. Any evidence, whether its signals from space, saucers landing on the White House lawn, or or unexpected solutions to hard-to-solve math problems.

It's not polite to enter an unfamiliar area where you believe nothing just to bother those who have something to say there.

We really do want to see evidence of alien life.

Whatever you think or believe already in your puny, primitive human life (no offense)

Riiiight. So contact with the aliens makes you special, I guess.

if you don't know anything about the aliens, you can't think or believe anything about them. You have to start somewhere.

We're starting here: show some evidence.

Besides that, there are mature, respectful ways of disagreeing with others that do not interfere with the conversation.

For example: show us some evidence.

PS Regarding your website, it would be much easier to navigate if you actually had hotlinks instead of just entering the URLs as text. Also, it never hurts to add more cat pictures. Thanks.

 

[EarthSister]

Sister, what is the point in your meetings with the aliens? I mean, you clearly are unable to produce anything truly informative. You, and others like you, aren't solving any of the many problems on earth. Even though it seems well within the means of your alien buddies. All the "information" you give us seems to be taken straight from sci fi movies with a healthy dose of new age spirituality thrown in. Nothing really creative there.

So I'm asking, what exactly is the point of these visits? Surly you've asked them that. And if it's to impart some wisdom upon us mere humans, could you please tell them that no ones buying it because they've yet to provide you with what we humans call "proof".

Operaider

You have not asked me any questions about the aliens. In this forum, it's apparently difficult to even get past whether they are real or not.

The main point of my own meetings with the alien races, and Jack's-- we work together, is to learn about them. And the main point of that is for us to be able to help other alien experiencers and investigators learn about them. Not all alien experiencers do what we do. Not all are taught the things we are taught. Our contacts are the leaders of the organization of visiting races.

Think of it this way for instance: If somebody you know and care about suddenly had an alien experience and was scared and confused, what could you do to help them? If you know nothing about the aliens yourself, you might just think they were crazy and, unknowingly, treat them very badly. If you know them as trustworthy, honest and stable, you might go along with it, but you would have to depend on tabloid talk, or somebody else for more professional information about what really happened to your loved one and why. There is a wide variety of those people available but most are not positive or honest. Most do not even have the knowledge or experience they claim to have. Many are products of, or the very agents of, the enormous governmental disinformation campaign designed to keep the public afraid, confused and unwilling to learn about alien life in general, or to get to know their own alien contacts, if they have them.

If you had heard about somebody who has extensive personal experience with the alien races, open communication, and is trustworthy to share what is real and true about the aliens themselves, you would want find that person. That person can calm your loved ones fears and explain how and why things happen like they do between races. If your loved one wanted to pursue their relationship with alien life, they would be able to do that in their own way with support of others, and therefore help in the effort to bring education to humans in spite of our dogma, superstitions and govt control, and ultimately help in bringing our worlds together. All advanced races know each other, it's only the natural progression of all races, but it's hard for us to see that if we can't even seriously approach the subjects of the visiting races.

Also imagine that it was you who suddenly found yourself in an alien encounter, and what you would face because it would change your life forever. Your friends would disbelieve you. Your family may think you are mentally ill and so may you. (Many people have, or have had normal mental instabilities in life, and something like an alien experience will highlight those for yourself and others.)

You would have questions you needed answers to. Imagine, what would those questions be? Those questions are the ones I am trained by the organization of visiting races to help you find the answers to. I can introduce people to their own alien contacts, encourage them to get to know and trust them, and teach them how to communicate.

Other kinds of professional humans that you might find to answer your dire questions are trained in other ways for other reasons. Who you decide to listen to is going to determine how you and others in your life handle what has happened to you, what you think of the aliens, and in which direction you will now progress through your life. Once it happens to you, things can never go back to the way they were before.

 

[EarthSister]

Why object when people say they don't believe you, then?

I don't object to disbelief. This is just too hard to believe if it hasn't happened to you. Nobody knows that better than I do.

We have. Here it is: we would like to see real evidence of alien life. Any evidence, whether its signals from space, saucers landing on the White House lawn, or or unexpected solutions to hard-to-solve math problems.
We really do want to see evidence of alien life.

Look around. It's all over our planet. Are you still waiting for the govts to allow you to realize it?

"Whatever you think or believe already in your puny, primitive human life (no offense)"
Riiiight. So contact with the aliens makes you special, I guess.

We humans are all puny, primitive and special. Why take offense when I said "no offense"?

We're starting here: show some evidence.
For example: show us some evidence.

Look around. It's all over our planet. Are you still waiting for the govts to allow you to realize it?

PS Regarding your website, it would be much easier to navigate if you actually had hotlinks instead of just entering the URLs as text. Also, it never hurts to add more cat pictures. Thanks.

Thanks.

 

[Zombified]

Look around. It's all over our planet. Are you still waiting for the govts to allow you to realize it?

Examples? Something better, I hope, than unconfirmable claims of contact and fuzzy video of military flares. I mean real, objective evidence.

 

[EarthSister]

Examples? Something better, I hope, than unconfirmable claims of contact and fuzzy video of military flares. I mean real, objective evidence.

Zombified

If you can't or won't consider it when you see it, why do you think I should be able to convince you better?

 

[Zombified]

Let me tell you a story, EarthSister. This is a 100% true story.

My father was involved in flying saucer research for the government. Information about it leaked out - an enterprising reporter snapped a picture of it. The government, of course, covered it up.

Interested? Now let me fill in the blanks.

My dad was an aircraft engineer for Avro Canada. In the mid 1950's, they experimented with VTOL aircraft that were disk-shaped and were powered by a vertical centrally-mounted turbofan. It was an attempt to build a funky helicopter, basically.

It didn't work. They got about 60 feet off the ground and that was about it. Just one of those funny experiments from the heyday of aviation research. Of course, this is the height of the cold war, so everything involving planes is classified up the wazoo to keep those evil Russians from stealing our ideas and using them to nuke us with.

It was also, coincidentally, during one of the periods when flying saucers were all the rage in pop culture, so when a leaked picture shows up in a newspaper, you can imagine the speculation: somebody's experimenting with a secret flying saucer.

Of course, both the Canadian and American governments' reaction to this is entirely predictable: no comment. It's a classified military research project, after all. Of course, that just added fuel to the fire: not only was there a flying saucer, but the governments are covering it up!

For the rest of his life, the old man laughed out loud at any mention of Hanger 18, Area 51, or any other rumor of captured saucers.

So when I ask for objective evidence, I need something that isn't a minor incident that's been blown out of proportion by over-excitable people. Don't tell me a story about a saucer that turns out to be a really dumb way to build a helicopter.

And no, my dad was not a government disinformation agent, and neither am I. Sheesh.

About the Avrocar

 

[EarthSister]

Zombified

I believe your story.

I guess the Avrocar has been your only experience.

 

[Zombified]

I believe your story.

I guess the Avrocar has been your only experience.

Does this help you understand why, when I hear claims about aliens and UFOs, I start wondering about real evidence? or about the real story? Do you see why people want to test your aliens to see if they're real?

 

[EarthSister]

Zombified

Yes, I see very well.

If you did never have any personal knowledge of the Avrocar, would you think any differently about the potential evidence you have seen or heard about? And how so?

 

[Zombified]

If you did never have any personal knowledge of the Avrocar, would you think any differently about the potential evidence you have seen or heard about? And how so?

Perhaps. Let us consider what I could do if I was skeptical about the existance of the Avrocar project.

To begin with, the Avrocar doesn't violate any of what's known about history or aeronautical engineering. Its claims are modest and believable. Nobody claims the Avrocar can go Mach 4 and is invisible and can carry a whole company of paratroopers.

Consider the page I linked to. That's a pretty clear picture, isn't it? Of course it could have been faked (some people think moon landing pictures were faked, the silly buggers). But it sure is a better picture by far than anything taken of any UFO.

Next, there are names, places, and dates associated with the Avrocar project. There are documents that could be collected and investigated. Stories could be compared and corroborated.

Best of all, there are the existing artifacts themselves. I could, if so motivated, go to a museum and actually see one. That's pretty good evidence.

But let's say we didn't have any of that. Imagine the government never declassified the project. What then would I be able to conclude? Nothing, really. I'd just have to say "I don't know, there isn't any evidence."

Now you could fairly object that we ought to be saying "I don't know" about UFOs instead of "there aren't any." The problem is, so many people have looked so hard for so long its difficult to imagine they could have escaped solid documentation for 60 years. Imagine if I claimed that the government had been flying hundreds of Avrocars ever since the 50's. But no one had ever seen one near an air base or anywhere else, or at least nothing solid that couldn't have been a conventional aircraft. What would you suspect about my reliability?

That's the problem with UFOs. If they're all over, then where the hell are they?

 

[Anders]

Anders

I am not asking you or anyone to believe me. If you don't want to talk about alien life, don't talk about it. If you do want to talk about it, add something constructive. If you have no interest or belief at all, well, maybe your abilities are suited to a different area of the message boards.

[snip]

I really want to talk about alien life. I'm a firm believer in extraterestial life, and I would say that theories about if there are life else where in the universe has a good chance of beeing true. The theory of aliens on earth is at best shaky. You won't say anything, so there is no way for me to believe that there are any aliens on earth.

However, if you, that say you have contact with aliens, would say something that proves the "aliens on earth" theory, it would be great, the discovery of the century, no, the millenium!

And also, I try not the believe, I want to know.

 

[Ashles]

How many aliens does it take to screw in a light bulb?

I don't know. I asked them but they told me they had nothing to prove by performing tests for me.
But they assured my their bulb-screwing technology is amazing in comparison to ours.
And they said I was special and sensitive. They don't communicate with just ANYONE...

 

[Dr Adequate]

I have been speaking in public and private for over 14 years about my own alien experiences and what I am learning. I cannot count the times people have tried to test me like this. The aliens never play this kind of game because of the ramifications there would be on my unassuming, precarious position.

What "ramifications" would there be on your "position" if aliens told you the 42nd Mersenne Prime?

Besides that, it would not prove what people presume it would prove.

Producing scientific information which humans don't know would indeed be evidence of contact with a culture more scientifically advanced than humans.

We have. Here it is: we would like to see real evidence of alien life. Any evidence, whether its signals from space, saucers landing on the White House lawn, or or unexpected solutions to hard-to-solve math problems.
We really do want to see evidence of alien life.

Look around. It's all over our planet. Are you still waiting for the govts to allow you to realize it?

Oh, you have a conspiracy theory as well, how ammusing. Now, you say that the evidence for alien life is "all over our planet". This is an exageration. I've looked in my back yard. No evidence of alien life. In my fridge. No evidence of alien life. Out of the window. No evidence of alien life. My desk drawer. No evidence of alien life. The nearest pub. No evidence of alien life. It could be, of course, that there were a couple of Martians down my local boozer, but that by some mysterious and unexplained method, the government prevented me from realizing it. They do that sort of thing, you know. But to date, in thirty years, I have not seen one single shred of this evidence that you say is "all over our planet". So you are wrong.

Now, SHOW ME SOME EVIDENCE.

 

[Yaotl]

How many aliens does it take to screw in a light bulb?

I don't know. I asked them but they told me they had nothing to prove by performing tests for me.
But they assured my their bulb-screwing technology is amazing in comparison to ours.
And they said I was special and sensitive. They don't communicate with just ANYONE...

Did they make you hide expensive stereo equipment in your meat body and then give you a tattoo of a clown when they brought you into the gang?