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Jedi Knight said:


Did the folks who were roasted alive inside the nightclub in Rhode Island recently (all 96 of them) have free will? I think they were willing themselves a way out of there, but TLOP nailed them.

All outcomes are absolute beyond the scope of human interference. There is no free will.

JK
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Still no courage to reply to my questions? Or do you consider evasion a suitable response?
 
Jedi Knight said:


Did the folks who were roasted alive inside the nightclub in Rhode Island recently (all 96 of them) have free will? I think they were willing themselves a way out of there, but TLOP nailed them.


JK
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Are you suggesting that someone has put forth the idea that Free Will makes someone invincible?

If so, please provide links to their quotes.

Otherwise no further response is required, and we can move back to you answering my previous questions.
 
Max560 said:


Are you suggesting that someone has put forth the idea that Free Will makes someone invincible?

If so, please provide links to their quotes.

Otherwise no further response is required, and we can move back to you answering my previous questions.
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I do not waste my time with unecessary questions. You haven't been on this forum long, have you?

The universe is governed by rules. Those rules are regulated by TLOP. Since TLOP regulates the universe, men have no free will. If men had free will, they would make the rules and would be immune to TLOP.

It doesn't get much simpler than that.

JK
 
Jedi Knight said:


I do not waste my time with unecessary questions. You haven't been on this forum long, have you?

The universe is governed by rules. Those rules are regulated by TLOP. Since TLOP regulates the universe, men have no free will. If men had free will, they would make the rules and would be immune to TLOP.

It doesn't get much simpler than that.

JK
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Are you confirming that the only thing that you will accept as evidence of Free Will is the ability to break TLOP?

Are you also confirming that when questions get difficult, you turn and run with your tail between your legs? Or are you confirming that you are not smart enough to answer them?

BTW, I still reject the notion that TLOP controls anything. It merely describes the nature of the universe.
 
Max560 said:


Are you confirming that the only thing that you will accept as evidence of Free Will is the ability to break TLOP?

Are you also confirming that when questions get difficult, you turn and run with your tail between your legs? Or are you confirming that you are not smart enough to answer them?

BTW, I still reject the notion that TLOP controls anything. It merely describes the nature of the universe.
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Run? No, more like rolling in laughter at sophomoric questions.

Look, you have formed a self-opinion about free-will. Nothing I say to you will change your mind, right? That is what being self-appointed with thought means.

When the atomic bomb detonated over Nagasaki, was that a description of "the nature of the universe" or was it, in fact, TLOP? Did the hundreds of thousands that died express any free will? No. When TLOP grabbed them, they died. There was no free will. They simply died.

If a human gets cancer, are they expressing free-will? Again, is that free-will or TLOP? It is certain to be sure that all humans would love to use a touch of free-will and get rid of that cancer. But they can't. They can't, because TLOP makes the rules.

The nature of the universe is TLOP. No human can escape that which is inescapable. That is why humans do not have free-will.

JK
 
Oh yeah, one more point. Since humans cannot rule TLOP, that means it is a mechanism of omnipotence. It was something created that didn't involve humans.

Knowing that then, what omnipotent being created it?

JK
 
Jedi Knight said:


Run? No, more like rolling in laughter at sophomoric questions.

JK
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So once again, are you not able to answer the questions, or are you afraid to?
 
Jedi Knight said:
Oh yeah, one more point. Since humans cannot rule TLOP, that means it is a mechanism of omnipotence. It was something created that didn't involve humans.

Knowing that then, what omnipotent being created it?

JK
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TLOP are merely descriptors of how the universe works.

Knowing that then, why do you conclude that an omnipotent being is required to create them?
 
Humans created "tlop" to explain how things in this universe work. It was just giving a name and definition to something like we do with everything.
 
Max560 said:
TLOP are merely descriptors of how the universe works.

Knowing that then, why do you conclude that an omnipotent being is required to create them?
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Humans didn't create TLOP. You can't be serious. If you are, that is careless thought.

Since humans did not create TLOP, what did?

JK
 
J3K said:
Humans created "tlop" to explain how things in this universe work. It was just giving a name and definition to something like we do with everything.
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That was not his claim.

JK
 
Max560 said:


So once again, are you not able to answer the questions, or are you afraid to?
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What, did IQ's just suddenly drop in the last hour? I already told you I do not answer sophomoric questions.

JK
 
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TROM = The Rules Of Monopoly

Players obey TROM.
You are a Player.
You obey TROM.

TROM makes/controls YOU makes/controls CAR (or tophat, or thimble, iron, whatever)

So with TROM in hand, which are much more simplistic than TLOP, please let me know how I will fare in the next ten games of monopoly that I play with three other players. Please let me know what place I will finish, and which square on the board I will occupy at the end of each game. If you are unable to do this with the monopoly rulebook (TROM) in hand, please explain what additional information is required.
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TLOP describes the moon, yet the moon has the ability to disobey TLOP?
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Has anyone argued this to be the point? If so, please provide a link to their quote.


Anyone who argues for free-will is really saying that the present is not based on the past aka magic
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I am argueing for free will, and I say that the present is based on the past. I also claim that my past decisions shaped my present status. You are implying that free will means the ability to do absolutely anything one can imagine. Again, provide some links which show that anyone holds this belief.

In other words, youre saying that TROM should also take control of TLOP?
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Nope. TROM do nothing but describe the Monopoly universe in all aspects.

The roll of the dice for example, should obey TROM.
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Virtual dice would suffice. You may supply the source code for the random dice and the hardware to run it. That should simplify your task.

I dont think so Max
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I dont think you can answer my question either.
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Jedi Knight said:


Humans didn't create TLOP. You can't be serious. If you are, that is careless thought.

Since humans did not create TLOP, what did?

JK
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Why is an omnipotent being necessary?
 
Jedi Knight said:


Why wouldn't an omnipotent being be necessary? Did humans create the universe?

JK
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No Jedi, as far as I know humans did not create the universe. If I don't know what did it... I say "I don't know what did It" I also don't assume it was ever "created" It may have always been...... In your case, the lack of knowledge of what happened leads you to create an explanation. Its nothing new, Different people generate different creation stories. Thats why there are so many gods hanging around. Your creation myth is no better or worse than any of the others....
 
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