Regarding Franko...

[PixyMisa]

Is this evidence for "free willy"? Or evidence for Religious Fanaticism???

Neither, actually. It's just idle speculation on what nature of critter you are.

Pixypants, are you ever going to bother explaining Your belief that there is a difference between "useful truth", and the regular variety of Truth?

What, again? You don't read too well, do you Franko dear?

 

[Franko]

Pixy, You told me that Solipsism couldn't be True, because even if it were True it would not be a "useful" Truth.

You said that this was your "proof" that Solipsism was False.

That's not logic or skepticism. That's called being afraid of the Truth. And being afraid of the Truth is what A-Theism is all about.

Now either you can define what the difference is between "useful" truth, and the regular variety truth, or you can explain why you don't believe Solipsism is true.

... or you can go on looking like a complete and total religious nutcase just like your friends CWL and Trixy.

It's your Fate ... what do I care?

 

[Max560]

Atoms obey TLOP.
You are made of Atoms.
YOU OBEY TLOP

Because Atoms obey TLOP, they can be said to be stupid.
Franko is made of Atoms.
Franko is stupid.

Did I get it right?

Just trying to help.

 

[PixyMisa]

Pixy, You told me that Solipsism couldn't be True

No. I didn't.

because even if it were True it would not be a "useful" Truth.

Yes. Which clearly contradicts what you just said.

You said that this was your "proof" that Solipsism was False.

No. I didn't.

That's not logic or skepticism.

No. And it's also not what I said.

That's called being afraid of the Truth.

Well, no. There's no evidence of fear in your statements, merely confusion.

And being afraid of the Truth is what A-Theism is all about.

Oh, so now I'm not an "A-Theist" after all? Jeeze, Franko, make up your mind. I just had all these false gods delivered and now I have to get rid of them again?

Now either you can define what the difference is between "useful" truth

Which I have done twice, my little mindless forgetful zombie puppet

and the regular variety truth

"Regular" variety?

or you can explain why you don't believe Solipsism is true.

Because Materialism denies Solipsism, and Materialism works.

... or you can go on looking like a complete and total religious nutcase just like your friends CWL and Trixy.

Can I choose the box instead?

It's your Fate ... what do I care?

That's a good question. Neither you nor I can do anything to change our minds - according to you. So why do you care?

Oh, yes: useless truths, third time:

Tautologies.

Either it will rain tomorrow, or it will not rain tomorrow.

True.

Not useful.

And have you finished thinking yet? I getting sick of this song.

 

[Franko]

Can you explain why you believe Solipsism is False (what is your evidence)?

PixyChixy:
Because Materialism denies Solipsism, and Materialism works.

hehehe!!

That’s so funny Pix, it’s like déjà vu … because just the other day a Christian friend of mine was telling me …

Can you explain why you believe A-Theism is False (what is your evidence)?

A Christian:
Because Christianity denies A-Theism, and Christianity works.

Then a Hindu friend told me …

Can you explain why you believe in Reincarnation (what is your evidence)?

A Hindu:
Because Hinduism denies we cease to exist when we die, and Hinduism works.

Hmmmm … or maybe You just imagined that my “friends” said that “stuff” … ?

How in the Omniverse did You ever get to be “god”? … Pfffh!

 

[PixyMisa]

hehehe!!

That’s so funny Pix, it’s like déjà vu … because just the other day a Christian friend of mine was telling me …

Then a Hindu friend told me …

Hmmmm … or maybe You just imagined that my “friends” said that “stuff” … ?

Nope. I'm taking some time off from being your Goddess. I've delegated that function to a small shell script.

I'll merely point out that your "friends" are clearly and observably wrong, and that I am equally clearly and observably right. Did you just post your message either by praying to a single omnipotent god or by the direct intercession of one of a million minor gods?

No. You used a computer. Which is the product of engineering, which is founded on science, which is built on materialism.

If you prayed your posts in to JREF, it would be a lot quieter here.

How in the Omniverse did You ever get to be “god”? … Pfffh!

You chose me. Must have been that free will of yours acting up again.

 

[Franko]

Pixypants:

You chose me. Must have been that free will of yours acting up again.

I don't believe in "free will" Pixy. Unlike yourself, I can't believe in things there's no evidence for.

 

[Franko]

Pixypuffgurl:
Me too. I'll be back when he resets himself. Or maybe not. When is BOBS 2.0 due out? Or even 1.1?

Is this evidence for "free willy"? Or evidence for Religious Fanaticism???

Pixypants, are you ever going to bother explaining Your belief that there is a difference between "useful truth", and the regular variety of Truth?

 

[Max560]

Are there any properties of atoms that we don't share?

 

[Max560]

I like this whole LD/Fatalism thing.

Its kinda like Anselm lite.

 

[PixyMisa]

Is this evidence for "free willy"? Or evidence for Religious Fanaticism???

Pixypants, are you ever going to bother explaining Your belief that there is a difference between "useful truth", and the regular variety of Truth?

Either there's an echo in here, or Franko is even more confused than usual.

 

[wraith]

Frankowraith,

Here we go again. "Prove that TLOP is not conscious", "Prove your outrageous claim of No-God", etc.

Come on, I though you LD guys were SKEPTICS! Are you seriously asking us to prove negatives?

First you have to shift the burden of proof by providing evidence for your positive claims.

Thus, pray tell, what is your evidence that TLOP is conscious?

If you are about to reply with the assertion "TLOP controls YOU control CAR" (which is just that - an assertion, not evidence) please riddle me this:

• 1) What do you mean when you say that YOU are "more conscious" than CAR? As far as I know (and probably the vast majority of the sane human population of this planet) a car is not conscious at all. How do you "grade" consciousess anyway? Isn't something either conscious or non-conscious?
  
  2) What is your evidence that everything must be controlled by someting that is "more conscious"? Does this apply to your Goddess as well? Is she also in need of control by a more conscious entity?

These points have been answer by Frank, so all I can say is read it again and suck it down

 

[MRC_Hans]

Frano and Wraith, did you not go to the same school? Since you are not able to spell in the same way?

Hans

 

[CWL]

These points have been answer by Frank, so all I can say is read it again and suck it down

Frank has answered jack diddle. All there is to "suck down" is the usual cut-and-paste insults. But, that's BOBS for you.

 

[CWL]

I wondered why I couldn't respond to that one. And then it wasn't there.Ayup.Me too. I'll be back when he resets himself. Or maybe not. When is BOBS 2.0 due out? Or even 1.1?

I have been told that the new versions (with more difficult levels - this version obviously only has "beginner") are shareware. I am seriously considering spending a few bucks on an upgrade. This version got pretty old pretty fast...

 

[PixyMisa]

Uh-oh. We've got BOBS stuck in a loop. Can someone hit reset?

 

[Franko]

Pixymoron:
Uh-oh. We've got BOBS stuck in a loop. Can someone hit reset?

Is that your best defense of A-Theism religious fanatic? It sounds like TROLLing to me?

Look, I don’t care that you have renamed your god – “free willy”, I don’t care that you pretend your god is a non-conscious. It doesn’t make you any less of a religious fanatic, because you have even less evidence for Your god than Christians, or Muslims, or Hindus have for theirs.

Make my point for me again A-Theist.

 

[CWL]

Is that your best defense of A-Theism religious fanatic? It sounds like TROLLing to me?

No, no Frankster. TROLLING would be something along the lines of slavishly cutting and pasting the same old assertions over and over again without considering any valid arguments from other posters and robotically insulting such posters.

 

[Tricky]

I don't believe in "free will" Pixy. Unlike yourself, I can't believe in things there's no evidence for.

ROTFLMAO!

Well, then, perhaps you could give us the evidence for these things you have claimed you believe.

• This universe is part of an omniverse.
• The first entity is the Progenitor Solipsist (PS) – our original primordial ancestor – what the Christians call “God the Father/God the Creator”
• The Progenitor Solipsist exists in the distant past when there were only two intrinsic parameters - Mass and Velocity
• This universe was created by the Logical Goddess (LG), who also created the forces (electro-magnetism, weak nuclear and strong nuclear). She did not create gravity.
• The LG created The Laws Of Physics (TLOP), except for gravity.
• The Logical Goddess controls everything in this universe.
• Consciousness creates matter.
• The Big Bang is made up of two parts. The Goddess corresponds to "The Initial State” (the initial “random” configuration of stuff). The other part is The Laws of Physics .
• One soul = one graviton.
• Gravitons come from the omniverse, but not necessarily this universe.
• The Logical goddess is the "top graviton", meaning she is omnipotent.
• Gravitons are fermions, i.e. they have spin and charge.
• The gender of a graviton is determined by its spin.
• The LG is the most conscious and complex entity in the universe.
• TLOP are an expression of the LG. She controls them.
• The LG, using TLOP, creates the shape, or body of humans. The soul is the graviton.
• The LG, and by extension TLOP are smarter, more powerful and more complex than humans.
• Gravity travels faster than the speed of light.
• Gravitons are the fundamental force-carrying particles of Gravity and Time.
• Gravitons are made of time
• Gravitons are intrinsically Good or Evil.
• Good Gravitons will move forward in Time (to a higher energy state), Evil Gravitons will move backwards in Time (to a lower energy state).
• the abyss is a Black hole where the Souls that don’t make it get tossed.

 

[Franko]

CWLoser (brainwashed A-Theist)

No, no Frankster. TROLLING would be something along the lines of slavishly cutting and pasting the same old assertions over and over again without considering any valid arguments from other posters and robotically insulting such posters.

Well considering the “content” of ALL your posts CWL (and Tricky, and MRC, and Pixy, etc) I think my responses are more than YOU deserve A-Theist.

Since its been over a year, and you STILL haven’t presented ANY evidence for your religious beliefs, and since you post NOTHING but the same spam over and over again, what do you want me to say? If you have an actual argument for your religious beliefs – some evidence – I’ll be happy to discuss it with you, but your spam doesn’t really require anything other than me restating the obvious. I realize you don’t like your hypocrisy exposed CWL, perhaps you should run along then? I honestly don’t know why you keep non-responding to all of my posts?

Actually, I do know why … It’s because you are a severely brainwashed religious fanatic with no evidence for his beliefs.

What is your evidence for the existence of “free will”?
CWL, brainwashed A-Theist: NONE, but I devoutly and dogmatically believe in “free will” anyway!

What is your evidence for the non-existence of “god”?
CWL, brainwashed A-Theist: NONE, but I devoutly and dogmatically believe there is NO “god”, and anyone who believes otherwise is a credulous Theist moron!

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What is your evidence for the non-existence of “free will”?
Franko, Logical Deist: Atoms obey TLOP; You are made of Atoms; YOU OBEY TLOP!

What is your evidence for the existence of “god”?
Franko, Logical Deist: TLOP (“god”) makes/controls YOU makes/controls CAR.
In the same way that YOU are more conscious then a CAR, TLOP is more conscious then YOU.