Regarding Franko...
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PixyMisa
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I suspect Franko is a bot, and they forgot to program that part.CWL said:
Skeptical Greg
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PixyMisa said:
Only if the meter maxes at 7..
What makes it even more amusing, is that it invokes an image of Franko, grabbing for the Dictionary, leafing
through the ' i's ', and wondering what this has to do with a heavy, malleable, ductile, magnetic,
silver-white metallic element, or a household device, usually with a flat metal base that is heated to smooth,
finish, or press clothes..
PixyMisa
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We observe free will directly, Franko darling. To not believe in free will makes as much sense as not believing in red or hot or pain.Franko said:
He can't be living in your garage, Franko; the invisible fairies would chase him out.
The Fool
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Franko said:
Franko.There IS an invisible dragon living in your garage. The proof of this is obvious...Here it is.
Invisible Dragon controls Tlop/tlop controls YOU / you control CAR.
Obviously the car does not control you, you control the car...so obviously there must be something controlling you....and something controlling the thing that controlls you and something that controls the thing that controls the thing.......Oh bugger it lets just call it an invisible dragon and claim that Its the top of the chain, therefore it is excempt from the "everything is controlled by something" law..... This is how you justify your Goddess isn't it frank? Everything must be controlled by something?? except for the exception....hahahahahaha....wow thats a revolutionary new Idea.
and as a bonus here is my proof of free will
TLOP does not care what atoms have for breakfast
I am made of atoms
TLOP does not care what I have for breakfast.
Eating breakfast is not impossible, I can do many things that are not impossible. I can choose which (not impossible) thing I do and when I do them. It is no more or less impossible to have eggs or bacon for breakfast. I can therefore have eggs or bacon...OR EVEN BOTH for breakfast.....My Free Choice.
Lets get this straight franko, If you are proposing there is some god somewhere that wants to determine, or even cares what I Choose for breakfast then the onus is YOURS to establish this fact. I am not interested in proving to you something that is self evident to me.... that no gods are involved in my breakfast.
Here is where you normally insert one of your stupid strawmen...like asking me why I don't randomly run red lights.......well, I don't choose to.... Why don't I choose to? Because I'm not insane. If I was insane....I may choose to randomly run red lights.
Maybe you will ask me why I don't choose to do something impossible......Why don't I choose to fly? Well I can chose to try if I like......If it is impossible, I will fail, If I am still alive I could even choose to try again.
Your ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ is becoming very repetative. You should work up some more material, the audience is falling asleep.
wraith
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The Fool said:
glad to be a convenience
what else would you call the act of selecting a course of action from a whole?
Im saying that my choices have been made...
youre saying that you use your magic...
that was awesome!
you should write a script
whatever helps keeps you sane
whats the mystery?
Youre an algorithmic process that finds the most beneficial outcome based on what you know...
wheres the flaw?
?
get insomnia 3
Hans 
Aardvark_DK
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LOL! You A-Theists sure are FUNNY! There ARE no such things as red or hot or pain. Here, I'll explain it in small WORDS so you can understand:PixyMisa said:
ATOMS dont feel PAIN
HUMANS are made of ATOMS
HUMANS dont feel PAIN
It is simple LOGIC!
Now why dont you run along... www.infidelity.org
The Fool
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wraith said:
"you get one free will choice" but unfortunately history has now been rewritten to say this one choice is just like all other Logical Deist choices ...no choice at all.
Whats the point of talking about this any further?.... you make an Ideal Cult member. You do understand the dangers when a cult is conditioned to believe they have no power to chose, no power to decide what is right and wrong.....no human dignity... don't you?
In nearly half a century on this planet I have never seen a more pathetically subservient little manservant....
Fetch me my slippers sockpuppet. It is your fate to serve a lord and master.
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The Fool said:
Your perception of Fate is somewhat crapola....
run along....free-willy awaits you
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Upchurch
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Personal experience. I have no evidence that I feel happy or sad either, but I've experienced those emotions.Franko said:
When people tell me about their personal experiences with God (in contect of trying to convert me), I ask "How do you know that you aren't just imagining it?" The same question would apply to me and free will. I don't know that I'm not imagining it, just like I don't know that I'm imagining being happy or sad.
Yes, it's faith, but it's faith based on actual, repeatable, consistant experience. Everytime I weigh an issue and make a choice, I witness free will. If someone were to say "exercise your free will right now, GO!" I could do it. Not many things taken of faith have that level of reliability and instantaneousity.
(is "instantaneousity" a word?)
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Sockpuppet you talk about perception? you would not percieve if your ass was on fire....wraith said:
My perception of Fate...is that if something is fated then you have NO CHOICE....
You make rediculous statements like "my choices are fated". Before you start suggesting other people's powers of perception are limited explain why you can't see how stupid that statement is.
Your lord and master has made numerous statements about decisions... specifically "one free will decision" when he was eventually dragged by the nose to explain...he chickened out and said it was all "a secret"... So sockpuppet...are you telling me that this is "the secret" that all decisions including this special "one off" decision are all pre-determined....and you have the hide to suggest that explaining them as "choice free choices" is adequate?
The game is over sockpuppet. Logical Deism has been shown to be an inconsistent lash up..... Keep nailing patches on sockpuppet...it is looking just as illogical, inconsistant and squeaky as the thing it was supposed to replace, the Catholic Faith.....
Fated choices...what a joke.
run along, Franko is calling for his slippers.
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The Fool said:
The next time that you take a dump Fool, you will use toilet paper to whipe your ar5e....thats Fate monfre
according to you, you just happen to use your "free-will"
no no no
Why dont you use your free-will and fly an F-35...
Did your grandma have "Free-will" to connect to the net when she was 12?
keep it up Fool, youre looking sleek
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wraith said:
The next time that you take a dump Fool, you will use toilet paper to whipe your ar5e....thats Fate monfre
Just thought I'd point this out - but Fool may not use toilet paper - he may use a bidet, he may have a toilet with built in "bottom washing" (very popular in Japan), he may use "moist toilet wipes" and he may not even wipe his bottom.
It would seem even in this he has many "choices" to make...
(Edited to add)
He may not even, ever have to take a "dump"...
thaiboxerken
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I tried using some pages from the bible to wipe with, but it's too scratchy.