Franko said:
That’s where you are wrong … because evidence which isn’t logical isn’t evidence.
Nonsense. Evidence is evidence. An observation is an observation. It is neither logical nor otherwise.
There’s “evidence” that John Edwards can talk to dead people.
And stronger evidence to suggest that this is not possible and that John Edward is a fraud.
… not Logical evidence, but evidence.
Evidence is not logical.
The same thing is True about Alien abductions, or Aliens in general.
The evidence for alien abductions is entirely anecdotal. To put it another way, wild stories with no basis in fact. The same as your religion, Franko.
… or black holes, or the “big bang”.
Evidence for black holes and the big bang is very strong. Black holes - a prediction of General Relativity - have known properties. Certain astronomical objects, such as Cygnus X-1, exhibit precisely the properties we'd expect from a black hole.
As I said earlier, the big bang is simply the
logical result of tracing the Universe's expansion backwards in time. There's also empirical evidence, like the cosmic background radiation.
Then why raise this as an issue with LD?
Because rather than saying "I don't know", you make up more wild stories.
In case you didn’t notice, my last post was just a repost of your previous one with “Big Bang” replaced with “Logical Goddess”, and “Atheism” replaced with “Logical Deism”.
No. Really? never would have guessed.
But … according to your cosmology. The Universe began magically 12.7 billion years ago with the BB
Apart from the "magic", and the ovely-precise age, this is correct.
and as you say Atheism/Materialism doesn’t speculate about what was occurring (if anything) prior to that point.
Oh, we speculate. But we don't claim to
know.
But in LD the Universe (the Omniverse) began very long before that.
And your evidence for LD is? Your evidence for the Omniverse is?
This Universe is simply the most evolved Universe to come along in a long series of Universes.
And your evidence for this is?
According to LD in the beginning there was nothing but Time and consciousness, and over Time that consciousness evolved and evolved and evolved, and everything that you see around you today is a result of that evolution.
And your evidence for this is?
Godel explains [the math of] how you go from a simple system (a simple consciousness) to a complex system
Which of Godel's work are you referring to here?
and Bayes explains how whenever you have new information coming into a system the systems ability to anticipate what happens next grows and expands.
This actually depends entirely on the nature of the information. Or to put it another way, on a very strict definition of what information is.
Without the LG you and I would still exist
Well, big surprise there.
but we would not exist in nearly as complex a form as we do
Evidence for this?
and we would only have a tiny fraction of the abilities and experiences we have here
Evidence for this?
-- in this universe. In the same way that You or I are more complex and self-aware then a Dog
Well, I am, anyway. You have stated quite the opposite for yourself.
the LG is more complex and self-aware then You or I.
And your evidence for the existence of this "LG" is?
And just as a Dog probably thinks that You or I work in mysterious ways
Dogs are stupid. Cats are much smarter.
You might believe that the LG works in mysterious ways.
Nope. I don't believe that any such entity exists at all.
But her ways are really not that mysterious at all.
Starting with not existing.
She is helping entities to evolve.
And your evidence for this is?
She is trying to transform simple entities into complex ones.
Evidence for this? Including that this actually happens in the first place?
Unfortunately some of those simple entities don’t want to be complex.
Well, no, Mister Mindless Zombie, you apparently don't.
" knows how many levels of complexity: conscious, subconscious, etc, & including all of the perceived *you*. As a materialist what else could you have? And why would that provide free will?