"Randi" Get a Brain

[GodofJacob]

Hello there,

I am dedicating this topic to anybody that has been humiliated or harrased by the James Randi Foundation,

I have contacted the foundation according to the website with a few questions, Some couldnt be answerd, some could, some ridiculed.

I called up randi and asked him a few questions and he wanted to babble me out on the phone because he clearly doesnt even know half of what I know, and im 21. I have been studying and acting chinese alchemy, and or ORMUS , ORMES elements for the past few years now and I belive everyone else should too. Well here was the conversation, i asked him if he even knew about these ORMS and that people have been useing them every day, he goes no, no i dont, could you show me, i said sure, i pointed them out to him on google, simple enough i said, he wanted me to explain them a little then after i was explaining a for a few minutes, i said the use of ormus is chinese alchemy, HE then blurts out, yeah , yeah , yeah, i know all about that, I said oh, you do. Randi or one of his help goes yeah im at the web site, I then proceceded to say Ooooo ...K, I said, so how do you know every thing about alchemy and the art of it when i just called and asked you if you knew about ORMUS (Which IS ALCHEMY!!) and you (randi) said NO i dont. (Randi shut up, there was a pause), I REPEATED YOU DO NOT KNOW about the alchemist and ormus, because these elements are directly connected to faith healing, and many other paranormal ablilitys the human mind is capable of, you have to use these to induce or use the humand mind to its fullest extent. Randi started yelling that healing was impossible and they havent been testing it for years and i was wrong, (When in the FAQ it says FAITH HEALING is a paranormal ability!), He wanted to shew me off the line and away from them because he knows I have alot of intelligence and knowledge, and I was embarrasing him, After he said healing was impossible I knew this contest was a scam. I didnt have time to point that out to him, about the Faith healing in the FAQ.

If you want my opinion we should take these ****in jokers down, i asked him why they are shooting people down when they cant even test most of the paranormal because we dont have the technology to detect what is undectable to the human eyes and mind. he still just went on to claim that it was all impossible, i laughed and i said when you say that it just shows me how much you really know, or how much you have read. and i said it isnt much. he didnt want to talk to me then. he wasnt very smart, I belive the people fighting for there rights on here , including me, are praying for something or someone to help them, maybe jesus maybe god, maybe something big, Im thinking They are just blowing people off, wasting time collecting money, and peoples time.

Any way, I hope you can post everywhere about ORMUS, alchemy, and the effects, and affects because its a fact that there are people using alchemy and mind power in this world along with some of the applicants on here, i am willing to start a petition agaist randi and i know some other people also that are willing. I belive hes going to try to play this **** out untill they are retired, and never give that million away. Legal action has to be taken for this site to be shut down.

Randi you better be praying to the gods that you arent ****ing people around, the gods are not ****ing around, they will make the fat lady sing. I will be sure to help the people, citizens on here, to collect there money, "The RANDI MILLION" and money for their time and humiliation James Randi has caused them Because OF the JAMES RANDI'S IGNORANCE or LACK of KNOWLEDGE, that knowledge that only the top few percent know. If an applicants attorney would like to contact me with any questions I will start a petition and I am free to testify my qualifications, that RANDI told me was impossible or untrue, and knowledge for them in the court of law against JAMES RANDI. I will be willing to prove my abilitys not to the JAMES RANDI foundation but to the COURT OF LAW, if an eligable laywer comes to collect my knowledge with an JAMES RANDI applicant, if one has not started the suit, i will my self, to settle the truth about the RANDI Foundation. IT IS A SCAM!!!! JAMES RANDI when I prove to the courts that you are a fraud you will not be happy. He claims my abilitys are not real, WELL YOUR CONTEST IS NOT REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN PROVE IT, They havent even tested me and they already claim I am impossible! So when I apply they will give me the run around and yell at me and slander me. I can predict it now. Thank you All for reading and taking a minute of your time to think critically about the RANDI MILLION.

JACOB ADAM

 

[ReFLeX]

I hope English isn't your first language.

ETA: ... Randi went to court over the Geller lawsuit. He wasn't found fraudulent then. What makes you think he will be now? Because of you?

 

[Rob Lister]

I hope English isn't your first language.

ETA: ... Randi went to court over the Geller lawsuit. He wasn't found fraudulent then. What makes you think he will be now? Because of you?

I've seen this writing [style] before. It was one of the e-mail applicant exchanges with Kramer. IIR, it was the one that was threatening to take randi to court for something or other. I'm too lazy to dig for it now . . . maybe later if someone else doesn't.

 

[NoZed Avenger]

I hope you were more polite on the phone. Perhaps it is because you were upset, but if you talked on the phone like you wrote here, I can't say I am surprised at a less-than-friendly reception.

I am curious about your (lack of) application, however. You seem intent on bringing a lawsuit where you will "prove" your abilities. It seems easier and much simpler to come up with a method of proving your abilities and then take the $1 million from the JREF challenge. Should they fail to pay after a successful demonstration, you would have clear monetary damages and an easy breach of contract suit.

At the moment, you don't have much of a claim. The cause of action is unclear and I see no real measure of damages for you. the refusal to pay on a successful test, however, would be incredibly easy to win if a lawsuit became necessary.

If I may ask: What is your claim, precisely, and how might it be tested (in court or otherwise)?

N/A

 

[Psiload]

Hello there,

I am dedicating this topic to anybody that has been humiliated or harrased by the James Randi Foundation,

I have contacted the foundation according to the website with a few questions, Some couldnt be answerd, some could, some ridiculed.

I called up randi and asked him a few questions and he wanted to babble me out on the phone because he clearly doesnt even know half of what I know, and im 21. I have been studying and acting chinese alchemy, and or ORMUS , ORMES elements for the past few years now and I belive everyone else should too. Well here was the conversation, i asked him if he even knew about these ORMS and that people have been useing them every day, he goes no, no i dont, could you show me, i said sure, i pointed them out to him on google, simple enough i said, he wanted me to explain them a little then after i was explaining a for a few minutes, i said the use of ormus is chinese alchemy, HE then blurts out, yeah , yeah , yeah, i know all about that, I said oh, you do. Randi or one of his help goes yeah im at the web site, I then proceceded to say Ooooo ...K, I said, so how do you know every thing about alchemy and the art of it when i just called and asked you if you knew about ORMUS (Which IS ALCHEMY!!) and you (randi) said NO i dont. (Randi shut up, there was a pause), I REPEATED YOU DO NOT KNOW about the alchemist and ormus, because these elements are directly connected to faith healing, and many other paranormal ablilitys the human mind is capable of, you have to use these to induce or use the humand mind to its fullest extent. Randi started yelling that healing was impossible and they havent been testing it for years and i was wrong, (When in the FAQ it says FAITH HEALING is a paranormal ability!), He wanted to shew me off the line and away from them because he knows I have alot of intelligence and knowledge, and I was embarrasing him, After he said healing was impossible I knew this contest was a scam. I didnt have time to point that out to him, about the Faith healing in the FAQ.

If you want my opinion we should take these ****in jokers down, i asked him why they are shooting people down when they cant even test most of the paranormal because we dont have the technology to detect what is undectable to the human eyes and mind. he still just went on to claim that it was all impossible, i laughed and i said when you say that it just shows me how much you really know, or how much you have read. and i said it isnt much. he didnt want to talk to me then. he wasnt very smart, I belive the people fighting for there rights on here , including me, are praying for something or someone to help them, maybe jesus maybe god, maybe something big, Im thinking They are just blowing people off, wasting time collecting money, and peoples time.

Any way, I hope you can post everywhere about ORMUS, alchemy, and the effects, and affects because its a fact that there are people using alchemy and mind power in this world along with some of the applicants on here, i am willing to start a petition agaist randi and i know some other people also that are willing. I belive hes going to try to play this **** out untill they are retired, and never give that million away. Legal action has to be taken for this site to be shut down.

Randi you better be praying to the gods that you arent ****ing people around, the gods are not ****ing around, they will make the fat lady sing. I will be sure to help the people, citizens on here, to collect there money, "The RANDI MILLION" and money for their time and humiliation James Randi has caused them Because OF the JAMES RANDI'S IGNORANCE or LACK of KNOWLEDGE, that knowledge that only the top few percent know. If an applicants attorney would like to contact me with any questions I will start a petition and I am free to testify my qualifications, that RANDI told me was impossible or untrue, and knowledge for them in the court of law against JAMES RANDI. I will be willing to prove my abilitys not to the JAMES RANDI foundation but to the COURT OF LAW, if an eligable laywer comes to collect my knowledge with an JAMES RANDI applicant, if one has not started the suit, i will my self, to settle the truth about the RANDI Foundation. IT IS A SCAM!!!! JAMES RANDI when I prove to the courts that you are a fraud you will not be happy. He claims my abilitys are not real, WELL YOUR CONTEST IS NOT REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN PROVE IT, They havent even tested me and they already claim I am impossible! So when I apply they will give me the run around and yell at me and slander me. I can predict it now. Thank you All for reading and taking a minute of your time to think critically about the RANDI MILLION.

JACOB ADAM

Did you properly fill out and submit an application as stated in the rules?

http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html

May we see your application?

 

[vbloke]

I take it your qualifications are from an accredited source and not from a woo school.
Maybe Randi was rude to you on the phone, but hey, I probably would be too if you started mouthing off about how intelligent you were and how dumb I was because you've studied something I haven't.
If you have such a problem with Randi, the JREF and the $1million challenge, why don't you call the media and do your "proof" live on TV? That would negate the need for court and be a more peaceful solution to your perceived insult.

 

[Manny]

the gods are not ****ing around, they will make the fat lady sing.

Does this message board ever have photoshop contests? Because this would be just beautiful.

 

[ohms]

So godofJacob, have you applied for the challenge? Do you have the guts to put your money where your mouth is?

I suspect not.

 

[roger]

they cant even test most of the paranormal because we dont have the technology to detect what is undectable to the human eyes and mind.

Then how on Earth do you know it works?

 

[MRC_Hans]

Re: Re: "Randi" Get a Brain

Does this message board ever have photoshop contests? Because this would be just beautiful.

Well, you can start one anytime you like .

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So Jakob, you think people need to be polite to you no matter what nonsense you blabber on the phone? You think it is your right to take up Randi's time with your nonsense?

Think again (look up the term "think" if you don't know what it means).

Then, if you have a paranormal challenge, APPLY for the Randi Prize. Or discuss it here, if you will, but change your tone or expect flak so dense you can walk on it.

Hans

 

[Hitch]

I have a few questions.

Does the constantly variable spelling of whatever you were talking about reflect an inconsistent pronunciation of the same? (That could account for a certain lack of clarity in verbal communication.)

Does your aversion to typing periods reflect rambling incoherent spoken sentences?

Do you yell as much as you type in all caps?

Am I to assume you pepper your verbal communication with obscenities that you edit out of your writing here with asterisks?

If the answer to any or all of these is yes, I think I can understand why you didn't manage to get anywhere.

 

[Ashles]

Jacob - what exactly are you claiming you can do?

If it's alchemy in the sense of transmuting materials then any university would be eager to test you and fund you.

If it is healing then again this would be easily testable and I wouldn't understand why you would be messing about here.

Or if it is predicting the future then that's the easiest of all to test - just write a prediction here and we can see if you are correct.

But it sounds slightly like you seem to have an amazing ability that can't be measured or detected in any way.
If so, I have 38 such abilities myself.

You claim to have these amazing abilities, yet you'll only produce them to a court of law - not to win a million, or to a university, or healthcare company, or anything that might actually push forward human knowledge or a least get you huge amounts of money.

What an amazingly plausible story.

(Of course maybe you are Lucianarchy yet again in which case seek medical help. Seriously.)

 

[Timothy]

Has anyone ever been banned for their first post? This one certainly looks like a candidate (by my count, he's somewhere between 4 and 7 strikes in this one post.)


From the FAQ:

"The following are some examples of the type of behavior than can result in the rejection of your claim:

- Continuous Belligerence, Hostility or Obstinacy.
- Repeated use of Profanity Following Warnings from The JREF asking you to STOP.
- Willfully or Unreasonably Delaying the Application Process (for reasons that can only be considered vain).
- Cancelling a Test at the Last Minute (for reasons that can only be considered "vain").
- Threatening Legal Action Against The JREF or its Employees & Investigators.
- Slandering the JREF or its Employees.
- Making Libelous Accusations (such as insisting that the Challenge itself is a Sham/Fraud or that Randi himself is a liar and a cheat who will never award the prize money even if the Applicant Passes the Tests).
- A Consistently Aggressive or Violent Tone in Correspondence.
- A Proven Inability to Comprehend or Accept the Rules of The Challenge."

and

"You can be banned from the forum for the same reasons you can have your claim rejected, so conduct yourself in a mature and responsible manner, and you will never have anything to worry about in this regard."


On one hand I pity this mental case ... on the other, I have better things to do than listen to incoherent babbling and ranting. Pull the plug and have done.

- Timothy

 

[Gayle]

the fake "i"

I've never heard of ORMUS , ORMES, or ORMS, but I do know about alchemy, so once you told me you were talking about alchemy, I would say, "Yeah, yeah, I know all about."

Small point.

Now here's another point. I used to host a forum and chatrooms on my particular subject of expertise. We had a problem with fake posters, ie, posters with a main identity who would create socks to congratulate themselves for their own brilliance or to attack other posters or me. They would try to disguise their writing style. Being so brilliant and all, they invariably hit upon referring to themselves as "i" rather than "I".

I couldn't help thinking that this was some sort of psychological confession, with the small "i" representing the sock, rather than their true "I" or identity. Anyone can be anything on the internet, but it's difficult for some people to lose their identity completely.

Look at Jacob. He started out as "i". But as he ranted on, getting into the flow of his diatribe, he became "I" again. That was another common feature we observed in socks that were created to attack.

None of this is evidence, just observation, and in my field of expertise, we rely heavily on observation of behavior.

Of course, all you good cold readers out there will now be able to tell me what my area of expertise is.

Rob Lister, I agree, I've seen this writing style before. However, I see it as the standard writing style of the sock trying to disguise their true identity.

Maybe Kramer can tell us who this person might be. I was immediately reminded of Cosmophilosopher, who may have been a sock for someone who was here long before I came along. But I don't remember Cosmo threatening lawsuits.

In the meantime, when Randi gets a call like this, for the love of Ed, I hope he just hangs up.

Gayle

ETA: K.C. HAUGE, Return of the Psychic Swordsman. Take a look up in the challenge applications and see what you think.

 

[GodofJacob]

I take it your qualifications are from an accredited source and not from a woo school.
Maybe Randi was rude to you on the phone, but hey, I probably would be too if you started mouthing off about how intelligent you were and how dumb I was because you've studied something I haven't.
If you have such a problem with Randi, the JREF and the $1million challenge, why don't you call the media and do your "proof" live on TV? That would negate the need for court and be a more peaceful solution to your perceived insult.

I wasnt bragging about anything on the phone i was trying to explain what i have found and they were telling me it was impossible and i didnt know what i was talking about when Randi is the foundation trying to learn Randi also told me that healing is impossible just goes to show what they really know, that is when i started doubting this contest, that is what makes anybody mad, the money isnt worth the fame, period. Not when you know what the ORM does. and how it can benifit you. All i am screaming is that, there are people out there that should have won this money by now. Not me I am not the first to discover mind power with ORMUS. I am only fighting for other peoples rights. Yeah, if the media has a brain wave meter ill be there. Besides im to busy learning how to astral project, to scream at some of you. If any body here has read about astral projection, or flying with the human mind, youll read that there are a few humans that are born with astral projection natrually!! So what does that mean. Paranormal abilitys exsist Natrually thats evolution. Read about ORMUS, consume ORMUS and THINK. Youll see and feel, Spiritual riches are worth more then money any day. To bad ive read the rules of the contest and I think its BS. PS If you know what Alchemy is then you know what ORMUS is, its not like this hey guys im going to learn about alchemy, then never learn about ORMUS, its the same thing. If you know all about alchemy and never read about ORMUS, then you dont know anything about alchemy. Stop making excuses old man. I have a couple abilitys that i am fine tuning, obviously Randi wants to see a hard one for the million. So I am learning to astral project, a skill that IS REAL and can be learned by a healthy human mind.

 

[Psiload]

I wasnt bragging about anything on the phone i was trying to explain what i have found and they were telling me it was impossible and i didnt know what i was talking about when Randi is the foundation trying to learn Randi also told me that healing is impossible just goes to show what they really know, that is when i started doubting this contest, that is what makes anybody mad, the money isnt worth the fame, period. Not when you know what the ORM does. and how it can benifit you. All i am screaming is that, there are people out there that should have won this money by now. Not me I am not the first to discover mind power with ORMUS. I am only fighting for other peoples rights. Yeah, if the media has a brain wave meter ill be there. Besides im to busy learning how to astral project, to scream at some of you. If any body here has read about astral projection, or flying with the human mind, youll read that there are a few humans that are born with astral projection natrually!! So what does that mean. Paranormal abilitys exsist Natrually thats evolution. Read about ORMUS, consume ORMUS and THINK. Youll see and feel, Spiritual riches are worth more then money any day. To bad ive read the rules of the contest and I think its BS. PS If you know what Alchemy is then you know what ORMUS is, its not like this hey guys im going to learn about alchemy, then never learn about ORMUS, its the same thing. If you know all about alchemy and never read about ORMUS, then you dont know anything about alchemy. Stop making excuses old man. I have a couple abilitys that i am fine tuning, obviously Randi wants to see a hard one for the million. So I am learning to astral project, a skill that IS REAL and can be learned by a healthy human mind.

Once again...

Did you properly fill out and submit an application as stated in the rules?

http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html

May we see your application?

 

[GodofJacob]

once again

NO I AM NOT APPLYING, Did you read the rules, you cant do anything legally to them, after you send them your signiture. ITs their filthy money anyway and they choose who it goes to. I surely do not need the money (retired) and I surely do not want the fame its not worth it, unless i learn immortality with astral projection . And by law when you aggree to their rules you cannot take legal action against them DUH, Im only trying to teach all of you something very valuable to our exsistance, that nobody wants to hear.

 

[Psiload]

once again

NO I AM NOT APPLYING

Then shut your trap.

 

[NoZed Avenger]

once again

NO I AM NOT APPLYING, Did you read the rules, you cant do anything legally to them, after you send them your signiture.

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And by law when you aggree to their rules you cannot take legal action against them DUH, [.]

I will offer no opinion on your alchemy or astral projection, but I do seriously question your knowledge of the law. And, as you are not even attempting to apply, I will repeat and emphasize that I see no case for you. Do you know a lawyer? Perhaps ytou could run your reasoning past him or her and obtain a qualified opinion regarding your conclusions and complaint.

N/A

 

[Gayle]

Move to a more appropriate forum

If Jacob is not making an application, may I suggest to the moderators that this thread be moved to a different forum?

Gayle