Questions about Diabetes?

[Kumar]

What's the point you want to make about sulphur?

Does Sulphur containing durgs rapidly attach to amino-acids/protiens & changes their structure?

Can you tell sulphur role in our bodies?

 

[Kumar]

Other questions about diabetes can b;

Q; Does constipation/unclear-delayed movement causes more absorption of glucose or causes other complications in diabetic patients?

Q; Does sugar & salt helps in correcting/avoiding constipation/unclear movements due to their water attracting properties in intestines?

 

[materia3]

Does Sulphur containing durgs rapidly attach to amino-acids/protiens & changes their structure?

Can you tell sulphur role in our bodies?

You are assuming a chemical reaction in vivo which is not known to occur. Sulfur is an essential trace element for living organisms
and contributes to their well being. Its absence is:

harmful
debilitating
ultimately fatal in the short term

Every protein and peptide has a sulf-hydyrl (-SH) group and these are critical in creating (by forming bridges or bonds) such substances out of amino acids. Thus not only are substances like ALL hormones (e.g. insulin) and many medications fabricated using S-H groups but all living organisms, from humans down to bacteria and plantlife contain these bonds as an integral part of their matrix. If you eat meat, you ingest sulfur. If you eat eggs you eat sulfur. If you eat most vegetables you ingest suflur.
Also search "cysteine."

I don't exactly understand what you are trying to say. If you are saying sulphurs are harmful and we should get rid of them, you will kill all life on earth. I think I know what hapened to life on other planets: Kumar's ancestors were there and somehow talked the population out of having anything to do with sulphur and they were wiped out. We will not be fooled a second time. Perhaps another line of inquery might be more fruitful and produce less harmful consequences.

We discussed metformin and lactic acidosis in this thread before, check your notes. For myself, I will not revisit it unless you can provide some new evidence. Thank you.

 

[Kumar]

You are assuming a chemical reaction in vivo which is not known to occur. Sulfur is an essential trace element for living organisms
and contributes to their well being. Its absence is:

harmful
debilitating
ultimately fatal. ...

Thanks for explaining. I didn't said sulphur is harmful in right quantity. Any substance can be useful & essential provided it is in right quantity. I am just assessing whether other sulphur containing diabetic durgs & injected insulin can behave something like metformin in those patients who can't tolerate metformin.

 

[Mojo]

Other questions about diabetes can b;

Q; Does constipation/unclear-delayed movement causes more absorption of glucose or causes other complications in diabetic patients?

No. Not much is absobed by the large intestine apart from water.

Q; Does sugar & salt helps in correcting/avoiding constipation/unclear movements due to their water attracting properties in intestines?

No. See above.

 

[materia3]

Thanks for explaining. I didn't said sulphur is harmful in right quantity. Any substance can be useful & essential provided it is in right quantity. I am just assessing whether other sulphur containing diabetic durgs & injected insulin can behave something like metformin in those patients who can't tolerate metformin.

Now you need some basic chemistry. The answer is no again. Excessive amounts of anything are possibly harmful depending on what they are (including pure water) but not for the reasons you state; excess elemental sulfur will not enter into, react with or change the chemical structure in-vivo of existing substances with S-H bonds such as hormones, other peptides and proteins.

These bonds are very difficult to tamper with .... they are tough and it just can't be done in vivo. On the lab bench is another matter but we're not talking about that.

If what you propose/suggest? were true, then we could not safely consume meat, eggs or most plant life, certain spring water... all of which contain sulfur in higher amounts than an oral anti-diabetic agent.

There is a section of southern Georgia (USA) where the drinking water contains very high levels of sulfur, coming as it does from
sulfur springs. In fact you can smell and taste it. Nobody to my knowledge has ever become ill from this, nor has anyone with an allergy to sulfa containing anti-microbials, ever had an allergic reaction to it. I suppose there is some very small % of all of humanity which may be allergically hyper-sensitive to such high levels of excessive sulfur intake but there are extremely rare and they hopefully know who they are. Do not make the mistake of extending a property that is very rare to everyone. It is called generalization and it is used to create fallacies.

 

[Mojo]

It is called generalization and it is used to create fallacies.

For another example of this, Kumar, look at the mess that generalizing from Hahnemann's quinine allergy has gotten you into.

 

[Kumar]

. Excessive amounts of anything are possibly harmful depending on what they are (including pure water)..

Nice explaination, thanks. You mean that anything can be harmful or effective in their molecular form not in their elemental form. Btw, Do we absorb & use anything in their molecular form as diabetic oral medicines & insulin?

 

[Donks]

Originally posted by materia3
Excessive amounts of anything are possibly harmful depending on what they are (including pure water)..

Nice explaination, thanks. You mean that anything can be harmful or effective in their molecular form not in their elemental form.

What exactly did you have to do to come up with that meaning? It doesn' say that at all. And what exactly is the molecular and elemental form of something?

Btw, Do we absorb & use anything in their molecular form as diabetic oral medicines & insulin?

Again, what's a molecular form, and wht other forms are there?

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Oops wrong thread.