Project 2025

The Great Zaganza said:
That's just laziness.
People can just pull themselves up by their bootstraps by getting themselves born into a rich family.
Republican donors managed to do it, so everything else could, too, if they just made the effort.
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Pulling yourself up by your boot straps is a perfect thing for the conservatives to tell people. It sounds good, but when you think about it, it is impossible. A boot strap is used to pull boots on. So when they say people need to pull themselves up by their boot straps, I think they are also giving a wink and a nudge.
 
I heard 'pulling yourself up by your bootstraps' was originally a term for something that was completely impossible. Then it got perverted into the weird saying it is today, a kind of rejection of responsibility. We don't need to help those people, they have a responsibility to magically save themselves.
 
maybe pull yourself up by your own bootstraps was the yesteryear equivalent of get ******. so in that sense it still means that.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Yeah, 'virtue signalling' is just an empty word they like to throw at people they don't like. It's only useful as a litmus test to show that the person you're discussing with isn't arguing in good faith and isn't worth replying to. It's also projection, of course, how often don't you see trumpkins and other far-righters reply with something meaningless just to show the world (and each other) that they are there?
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The Trumpian virtue signalling is everywhere. Of course the 6th of January was a great day, they are all hostages, the election was stolen. If you don't do it you are out.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
I heard 'pulling yourself up by your bootstraps' was originally a term for something that was completely impossible. Then it got perverted into the weird saying it is today, a kind of rejection of responsibility. We don't need to help those people, they have a responsibility to magically save themselves.
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This is true.
 
Stacyhs said:
I think a lot of it is virtue signaling. When push comes to shove, a lot of these public anti-prochoice people would be rushing to a doctor for an abortion when it affects them personally.
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You mean like this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZcFdst_SF0
"-- Anti-abortion Colorado Republican Richard Holtorf is confronted about his own girlfriend's abortion by Kyle Clark, and it does not go well"
 
Safe-Keeper said:
I heard 'pulling yourself up by your bootstraps' was originally a term for something that was completely impossible. Then it got perverted into the weird saying it is today, a kind of rejection of responsibility. We don't need to help those people, they have a responsibility to magically save themselves.
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A term used by those who also believe in trickle-down economics.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
I heard 'pulling yourself up by your bootstraps' was originally a term for something that was completely impossible. Then it got perverted into the weird saying it is today, a kind of rejection of responsibility. We don't need to help those people, they have a responsibility to magically save themselves.
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IIRC Heinlein had a major part in that meaning change.
 
For as long as I can recall, "pulling up by the bootstraps" has been an expression for the extraordinary, since it's obviously ironic hyperbole. It's another way of saying "working from nothing." One would apply it as praise to someone who did the seemingly impossible.

Like the "bad apples" example, it's interesting, in an odd sort of way, to see how it has morphed into meaning essentially its opposite.

Of course it also requires bootstraps in the first place. I'm a little reminded of the old Soviet joke. Message is sent to administration, "we are starving, send food." Reply is "tighten belts." Response is "send belts."
 
The leader of Project 2025 is stepping down from his role amid a power struggle over potential government staffing if*Donald Trump*wins in November.

Paul Dans, the director of the project housed at the Heritage Foundation, “will be departing the team”, according to a statement to the Guardian from*Kevin Roberts, the president of Heritage Foundation.

The departure could indicate the project’s work is ending or at least will not be taking such a public role in the lead-up to the November election, though the policy ideas outlined in its extensive conservative roadmap remain public. “Project 2025” has become a shorthand term for its manifesto of conservative policies, but the project includes multiple pillars designed to influence a conservative president.

Dans is leaving “after pressure from Trump campaign leadership” and an “ongoing power rift over staffing control” for a second Trump administration, Roger Sollenberger, a reporter for the Daily Beast, wrote on Twitter/X.

Dans, a*Trump loyalist, worked in personnel-related roles in the first Trump administration, including as chief of staff at the office of personnel management.
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The power struggles in the court of King Trump have already taken a victim.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...025-director-trump?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
 
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The right-wing policy operation that became a rallying cry for Democrats and a nuisance for Republican nominee Donald Trump is trying to escape the public spotlight and repair relations with Trump’s campaign.
Project 2025, a collaboration led by the Heritage Foundation among more than 110 conservative groups to develop a movement consensus blueprint for the next Republican administration, is winding down its policy operations, and its director, former Trump administration personnel official Paul Dans, is departing. The Heritage Foundation also recently distributed new talking points encouraging participants to emphasize that the project does not speak for Trump.
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They made the common mistake of not realising that at heart Trump is a narcissistic populist. He has no actual ideals or policies. Just words he thinks you want to hear.
 
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