Prediction - August 4th 2004

Although Lucianarchy told me that he will reply in questions in threads that are worded in a civil manner he hasn't replied to my last questions.
I am bumping this thread in case he forgot about it.
 
Cleopatra said:
Although Lucianarchy told me that he will reply in questions in threads that are worded in a civil manner he hasn't replied to my last questions.
I am bumping this thread in case he forgot about it.
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This is nothing new. Lucianarchy's claim that he answers direct questions asked in a civil manner in the thread in which he originally made the claim is a simple lie. There are many, many examples of this.
 
TLN said:
This is nothing new. Lucianarchy's claim that he answers direct questions asked in a civil manner in the thread in which he originally made the claim is a simple lie. There are many, many examples of this.
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Right here in this thread. I posted this to Lucianarchy:

So, regarding this new prediction of yours that will happen on August 4th 2004:

  • What "living systems" "consciously involved" are you talking about?
  • What "participants" are "co-operative"?
  • Do you get predictions, yes or no?
  • Do these perceptions come through guided, structured meditation sessions, yes or no?

Please answer the questions. They are polite, reasonable, rational questions about a claim you have made.
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I have repeated it several times, because Lucianarchy did not answer these polite, reasonable, rational questions about a claim he has made.

I will make sure that this thread does not disappear, ever.
 
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Cleopatra said:
Hi Luci.

Indeed but you choose to post them. Ok but I have a question. How can you possibly check if the perception is accurate if it is that vague. You know what I mean, if not I can clarify.

If you ask whether I keep a journal or not, the answer is not really since I do remember the day X that I read something about Middle East and I told myself:" Hmmmm if the info is accurate this means that we will have some unpleasant events".

If I say that I perceive that a suicide bombing will occur in Jerusalem in the next two months does this mean that we ( me and you that is) do the same thing in terms of predicting events?
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Hi, Cleo. I haven't been able to get on much recently.
Nothing's 'proof'. The 'vague' subjective value has to be self evident.

I have already said, I don't know what your 'funny feelings / predictions mean to you. I record mine so any 'luck' effect can be measured.
 
Lucianarchy,

Regarding this new prediction of yours that will happen on August 4th 2004:

  • What "living systems" "consciously involved" are you talking about?
  • What "participants" are "co-operative"?
  • Do you get predictions, yes or no?
  • Do these perceptions come through guided, structured meditation sessions, yes or no?

Please answer the questions. They are polite, reasonable, rational questions about a claim you have made.
 
gNothing's 'proof'h can this apply to your "Ladybrook" prediction? Probabilities as used in your reasoning should not be added but multiplied and would tend towards zero.

As an aside, is zero the proof of nothing?

gThe 'vague' subjective value has to be self evidenth surely should read; gThe subjective value has to be vaguely self evidenth this has some meaning and sense whilst your sentence did not.

"I have already said, I don't know what your 'funny feelings / predictions mean to you. I record mine so any 'luck' effect can be measured."

Just like a compulsive gambler who always tells you about his wins!

And to finish off, any words regarding your pretty poor performance in TheBoyPajfs experiment? Were/are you having a vague kind of blankout?
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Prediction - August 4th 2004

Lucianarchy said:


Hi, Cleo. I haven't been able to get on much recently.
Nothing's 'proof'. The 'vague' subjective value has to be self evident.

I have already said, I don't know what your 'funny feelings / predictions mean to you. I record mine so any 'luck' effect can be measured.
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What sort of events would you admit to not fulfilling the characteristics of your vision?
 
Huntsman said:


*chuckle*

If you can't understand that many of these "rebel fighters" (also read terrorists) are working in the police building, then that's your problem.

Bubblehead :D
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In all your name-calling and chuckling you seem to have missed replying to my response, Hunty:

So the police station at Falluja was attacked because...?
 
To counter Luci's claim, I will give my prediction that something nice will happen in the western world on that very same day.

;)

When one makes very vague and broad predictions, the chances of success are almost 100%. Nice try, Luci, but no rational person has ever been impressed by your "predictions".
 
thaiboxerken said:
To counter Luci's claim, I will give my prediction that something nice will happen in the western world on that very same day.

;)

When one makes very vague and broad predictions, the chances of success are almost 100%. Nice try, Luci, but no rational person has ever been impressed by your "predictions".
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Actually, good point tbk, given relative notions of "nice" and "awful", who's to judge this frickin prediction anyway. What a crock.
 
Lucianarchy said:
Hi, Cleo. I haven't been able to get on much recently.
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No worries.
Nothing's 'proof'. The 'vague' subjective value has to be self evident.
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Could you explain this to me please? Also what will constitute a fullfilment of your prediction?

I have already said, I don't know what your 'funny feelings / predictions mean to you. I record mine so any 'luck' effect can be measured.
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How do you record them? Do you mean that you tale notes like " Something terrible will happen on August the 4th"? Because my predictions are not that vague I mean I say " I bet that in a time frame of two months from now a bomb will explode in Jerusalem.

Can you tell me if our predictions have any similarities or differences?
 
Lucianarchy said:


In all your name-calling and chuckling you seem to have missed replying to my response, Hunty:

So the police station at Falluja was attacked because...?
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No, Luci, I saw your reply, I declined to answer it.

Because, really, you just don't grasp the basics.

They attacked it because some of those were working against the terrorists as well. It was a mixed bag. This is a classic example of Luci's strawman...I only stated that some police worked with terrorists. Luci seems to think I believe they all were. Not true, nor did I claim or imply such.

However, there's still no reason to call the Iraqi police a "Western" target. They assisted U.S. operations on their own basis (i.e.-we might ask them to help with crowd control or translation, but they made their own mind what to do and how to enforce their laws). They were not under the command of any U.S. personnel (you can argue about the council here, but the council doesn't micromanage every police station and, although selected by the U.S., the council is made up of Iraqis). Although some assisted us, some actively assisted the terrorists (gaining access to military areas and getting targetting information, or using police vehicles to transport personel and weaponry).

You'd be as accurate calling Toyota am Amrican company. They're a Japanese one, even if a large portion of their sales is in the U.S. Likewise, the Iraqi police are not a Western target, even if many of them cooperate with U.S. forces.

Basically, talk to me when you get some actual knowledge of conditions over there (and I can conclusively say that the media coverage, even by CNN and the BBC, while technically accurate, is very slanted and misleading as to the actual conditions).

I'll make an even better prediciton.

Sometime in the last two weeks of June or the first two of July, an attack will occur in Iraq (see, I even get the type or tragedy and the specific country, already two up on you). This attack will involve both coalition forces and Sunni Moslems(also got two specific groups involved, not vague terms such as "Western target" which I then interpret to be anything I want). There will be casualties, although the number is not clear (here I only tied you).

Now, can you get any more specific than that? Well, my predicition is quite simply based on what would be obvious to anyone with a brain that could understand the situation. Yours is less precise. Now, if your psychic powers provide less information than simply deducing a likelihood, what good are they? You aren't seeing the future, you're getting vague impressions from anxiety and misrepresenting them.

Call me when you have something useful, until then, you're another fraud.

Oh, and by the way, why focusing on me? Upset that I decided to ignore you for a while? There are many, many other questions here, many much more directly related to your claims. Of course, easier to snipe at someone you think has a chance of not replying, than answer the hard questions others have posted.

Edited to add: Namecalling? Pot...kettle..kettle...pot
Sod off Bubblehead, you started that crap with the wants to be a spider BS (in the process of blowing off the fact that, unlike weasels like yourself, I am willing to put my life on the line for my beliefs. If your predictions are so accurate, why the ◊◊◊◊ are you sitting on your a$$? Get to the #$%^#$% middle east and save the lives of the peopel you foresee. But no, you'd rather sit back and snicker as they get legs blown off, wouldn't you? Make you feel all superior? Give you that great "I told you so" feeling when you watch them pick up body parts from U.S. troops, civillians, and Iraqi children on the news? You make me sick, either way. Either you're a fraud, or a completely callous psychopath. Of course, could be both).
 
Huntsman said:



Basically, talk to me when you get some actual knowledge of conditions over there (and I can conclusively say that the media coverage, even by CNN and the BBC, while technically accurate, is very slanted and misleading as to the actual conditions).
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Hunty, we're not talking about the conditions in Iraq.

We're talking about the police station in Falluja.

Let me make this simple for you.

The US/coalition invaded Iraq.

They set up an interim 'puppet' council (IGC) who are not in any shape or form recognised by the Iraqi's loyal to Saddam Hussein.

The Iraqi's see this as western imperialism invading their country.

The fact that you were there, and are still ignorant of the facts, is quite astounding, to say the least.
 
Cleopatra said:

No worries.
Could you explain this to me please? Also what will constitute a fullfilment of your prediction?

How do you record them? Do you mean that you tale notes like " Something terrible will happen on August the 4th"? Because my predictions are not that vague I mean I say " I bet that in a time frame of two months from now a bomb will explode in Jerusalem.

Can you tell me if our predictions have any similarities or differences?
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Only you know if your feelings are predictions or not.

There is no "fullifment". I have already said that the perceptions are often vague, it is the fact that significant repeated correlations occur over time that warrant the recording. To juts have one correlation is perhaps lucky. But I have been able to do this over many occaisions. If you were to record yours for times, feelings and descriptions, you would perhaps be able to see if there was a pattern over chance.
 
Lucianarchy,

Regarding this new prediction of yours that will happen on August 4th 2004:

  • What "living systems" "consciously involved" are you talking about?
  • What "participants" are "co-operative"?
  • Do you get predictions, yes or no?
  • Do these perceptions come through guided, structured meditation sessions, yes or no?

Please answer the questions. They are polite, reasonable, rational questions about a claim you have made.
 
Only you know if your feelings are predictions or not.

With such a purely subjective standard, what makes you actually think you'll convince any skeptic that you have superpowers?
 
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