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Pizzagate

It's the exact same simplistic association game that people play when they blame video games or movies for violence: movie is violent, person is violent, ergo causal link.
 
Dr. Keith said:
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It's clear I'd be wasting my time trying to articulate my thought processes regarding all of this.
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On that we agree.
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Love the insinuation on Spins's part that the waste of time would be the fault of his auditors for being unable to grasp his fog rather than his own for being unable to make it anything more solid.
 
Spins said:
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For crying out loud even his Instagram avatar is a picture of Antinous the boy lover of Emperor Hadrian. To quote Lambert, Royston (1984) the sculptures of Antinous "remain without doubt one of the most elevated and ideal monuments to pederastic love of the whole ancient world".

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Well there's more to chew on, feel free to highlight 3 or 4 words from my post above for your entertainment. :D
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As I pointed out yesterday even the JimmyComet (James Alefantis) avatar is that of Antinous the boy lover of Emperor Hadrian. Is it all just some weird inside joke, a weird set of coincidences, a mistake on my behalf, or something more sinister?
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It's true that Antinous was Hadrian's teenage lover. It's also true that @jimmycomet uses a photograph of a sculpture of Antinous as his avatar. It's probably true that Hadrian and Antinous became lovers when the latter was not legally old enough to consent according to laws in the United States, although since we have scant factual information about their relationship, we don't really know when they became lovers.

Antinous died when he was about 20. Hadrian deified him, and an Antinous cult sprang up in the Mediterranean. Consequently, Antinous sculptures sprouted up in various places in the Roman Empire. These are now in museums all over the world.

And here's the important bit: from what I have seen, all of the sculptures--all of them--depict Antinous as a beautiful young man at the peak of physical perfection. However old he actually was when Hadrian took him as a lover, the artwork shows him as a sexually mature young man. The sculptures may be considered by some to be "one of the most elevated and ideal monuments to pederastic love of the whole ancient world," but they are also used to represent (adult) male homosexual love and (youthful but adult) male beauty, as are representations of Apollo and Hyacinthus and Achilles and Patroclus. Because he was deified, Antinous is sometimes referred to as "the gay god."

I don't think Alefantis's use of a photograph of the face and upper chest of Antinous is an inside joke or any sort of sinister code. I suspect the meaning is more like "Hey, beautiful young man."
 
turingtest said:
Love the insinuation on Spins's part that the waste of time would be the fault of his auditors for being unable to grasp his fog rather than his own for being unable to make it anything more solid.
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I have no problem understanding that Spins might be sensitive to anything that even obliquely suggests sexual assault and that this may colour his views and opinions.

Abooga however is asking, supposedly, for objective response. Then rejecting it when he gets it.
 
Lucian said:
I don't think Alefantis's use of a photograph of the face and upper chest of Antinous is an inside joke or any sort of sinister code. I suspect the meaning is more like "Hey, beautiful young man."
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Not like there aren't a H of a lot of photographs, paintings and sculptures of young but adult beautiful young women. Difficult to link them to pederasty though, and a good thing too. Otherwise Larry Flynt and Hugh Hefner would have had a much rougher time.
 
Bladesman87 said:
Has anyone looked into Domino's yet? Everyone knows that dominoes is a game only played by children and old people.
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Not round here it isn't. It's a deadly serious game and there are trophies and prestige to be won in pub leagues.
 
An armed man went to Comet Ping Pong to get to the bottom of the conspiracy...

A suspect arrested Sunday with an assault rifle at a Washington, DC pizzeria admitted he had come to investigate an online conspiracy theory, Washington's Metropolitan Police Department said Sunday evening in a statement.
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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/04/politics/gun-incident-fake-news/

I guess this has become another example of how conspiracy theory freaks can cause real hurt in the world.
 
abaddon said:
Are you saying you went along with the gullible herd?

What's "creepy" about it? Personally, I consider it to be talentless, uninteresting rubbish specifically aimed at people who are affected by such drivel. That's the thing with art. It's appreciation is largely subjective. Although I must observe that you are rather easily creeped out.

It is now suspicious that others like art that you don't like? That's suspicious?

Somehow, it seems to have passed you by that there is a certain type of pretentious artist and art collector/appreciator. The artist produces any old provocative drivel and the appreciator claims to appreciate it's edginess. This is complete and utter bollocks, of course, but both artist and patron go along with the mutual charade simply for the mutual ego stroking. 30 years ago, myself and friends named this "Ort". This should be pronounced with a plum or similar sized fruit in one's mouth.

"Ort" broadly speaking seeks to connect the untalented artist with an appreciator who seeks nothing more than a thin veneer of erudition and has the funds to buy it. The "Ortist" can claim boho impoverishment while receiving handsome emoluments for their "Ortistic" endeavours. The "Ort" appreciators lose the plot quite often as, for example, when a couple of students recently pranked a modern "Ort" gallery.

The word "Ort" is now verbal shorthand amongst us. Someone will say dismissively "Oh, it's just 'Ort'!" and we all know what is intended.

The decor in the pizza parlour is simply that..."Ort".


All well and good to start to backpedal now. Too late. Already, a violent crime has been committed, thankfully with no casualties.
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Are you posessed by the spirit of the late great Brian Sewell?
 
Ryokan said:
An armed man went to Comet Ping Pong to get to the bottom of the conspiracy...



http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/04/politics/gun-incident-fake-news/

I guess this has become another example of how conspiracy theory freaks can cause real hurt in the world.
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Another way to look at it:

The allegations against Welch are interesting because they follow the archetypal narrative of Islamist terrorism self-radicalization. A young man begins reading on the Internet; over time, he comes to believe mainstream sources that are questionable, misleading, or downright false; eventually, he decides to arm himself and take matters into his own hands on behalf of a political cause.

Just as authorities continue to struggle with how to stop self-radicalized Islamist terrorists, it seems inevitable that there will be more incidents like the one on Sunday. Already, at least one fake-news site is positing that the whole episode was a false-flag operation designed to facilitate a crackdown on purveyors of fake news. Across the country, some number of people are reading the story and nodding in agreement. Some of them might even decide to pick up a gun and do something about it.
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You lot have dismissed pizzagate (without even reading the supposed "evidence", by the looks of it) but it goes on. Anyone cares/has time to debunk all this? Check this out.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1459779
TheGrimReader at voat.co said:
People of Interest HAWAII CONNECTION// PROOF AND SMOKING GUN PROOF OF PEDO RING W/ COMET, CLINTONS, PODESTA AND THEIR MISTAKE (v/pizzagate)

2 days TheGrimReader

Sasha/Anita Lord is the music performance booker at Comet Pizza, she is close friends with the musicians of satanic Heavy Breathing and linked in the "friends" tab of Comet's website. Due to hacked emails, we are able to see a correspondence between her and a Dave Stone asking for a reference for "Richard Windsor." http://i.imgur.com/Hf1f97w.pngPNG

Upon further research "Richard Windsor is the known alias of ex CLINTON FOUNDATION board member Lisa P. *Jackson http://i.imgur.com/Bo03W0l.pngPNG .

“Dave Stone” / “David Flintstone” who calls himself a "poobah" is the owner of the very odd website www.daveflintstone.com where the only image is Mr. Potatohead....
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