Pirates

Due process.
Retake the yacht.
Done.
No captured travelers/hostages on the yacht?
Get off the yacht.
Sink it.
With extreme prejudice.
 
From history... encounters between Christians and Muslims..
Vasco da Gama voyaging through the Indian Ocean.
"On 12 February 1502, Gama commanded the 4th Portuguese Armada to India, a fleet of fifteen ships and eight hundred men, with the object of enforcing Portuguese interests in the east. On reaching India in October 1502, Gama started capturing any Arab vessel he came across in Indian waters. While the Zamorin was willing to sign a treaty,[16] Gama made a preposterous call to the Hindu King to expel all Muslims from Calicut which was naturally turned down. He bombarded the city that destroyed several houses on the sea shore and captured several rice vessels and barbarously cut off the crew's hands, ears and noses.[17] He returned to Portugal in September 1503. He then sailed south to Cochin, a small vassal kingdom of Calicut where he was given a warm welcome. He returned to Europe with silk and gold.

Once he had reached the northern parts of the Indian Ocean, Gama waited for a ship to return from Mecca and seized all the merchandise on it. He then ordered the hundreds of passengers be locked in the hold and the ship - named Mîri, and which contained many wealthy Muslim merchants — to be set on fire.[18]

Gama assaulted and exacted tribute from the Arab-controlled port of Kilwa in East Africa, one of those ports involved in frustrating the Portuguese. His ships engaged in privateer actions against Arab merchant ships."
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Beastly behavior is normal.
 
So set up a zone in which legitimate fishing enterprise may take place. Leave the zone...

Swim back.

Main problem is the cost. You'd have to maintain AWACS, radar picket boats, etc. over a rather huge area. International cooperation would seem to be necessary.

Right now, commercial shippers find it cheaper to pay ransom than to fight pirates.

Seems to me that there's an awful lot of unemployed "security" types around the world who would welcome a little cruise now and then, along with keeping the machine gun in good order...
 
BenBurch said:
That isn't what history shows us.
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There have been times where pirates were funded by nations and sanctioned to attack other nations. This isn't true here. Somalia isn't hiring these people as privateers to attack American ships and American citizens. We're not talking about the Barbary States, nations demanding tribute not to attack ships. These are just common thugs robbing ship. The historical link you're referring to is weak at best.

It'd be like wanting to declare war on a nation because people from there are committing highway robbery.

Historical reasons to go to war aren't always valid in modern times anyway.
 
The wuss approach of negotiating has to be re-considered.
If the ship is hijacked, take it back.
Kill the hijackers.
Make the farm more attractive to the potential pirates.
Hunting down and killing pirates stopped the affair around this part of the world.
 
Ryokan said:
There have been times where pirates were funded by nations and sanctioned to attack other nations. This isn't true here. Somalia isn't hiring these people as privateers to attack American ships and American citizens. We're not talking about the Barbary States, nations demanding tribute not to attack ships. These are just common thugs robbing ship. The historical link you're referring to is weak at best.

It'd be like wanting to declare war on a nation because people from there are committing highway robbery.

Historical reasons to go to war aren't always valid in modern times anyway.
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In this case we have a non-nation except in name. We have a stateless region where pirate lords rule. We would be making war, collectively, on those pirate lords.
 
WildCat said:
Maybe, but they were going to the Red Sea so they couldn't have been too far. The pirates are operating thousands of miles off the coast now, half the damn Indian Ocean is now pirate terriitory.

Of course, this never would have become the problem it has if no ransoms were ever paid.
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Kipling is right there..."Once you pay the Dane his Daneguld, you will never be rid of the Dane".

Some useful idiots trying to excuse away the pirates actions coming in 3...2..1...
 
Ryokan said:
There have been times where pirates were funded by nations and sanctioned to attack other nations. This isn't true here. Somalia isn't hiring these people as privateers to attack American ships and American citizens. We're not talking about the Barbary States, nations demanding tribute not to attack ships. These are just common thugs robbing ship. The historical link you're referring to is weak at best.

It'd be like wanting to declare war on a nation because people from there are committing highway robbery.

Historical reasons to go to war aren't always valid in modern times anyway.
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But there is no effective government in Somalia.
And it might be a law enforcement problem, but one where you can't just call the police and haul the offenders before a court.
 
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