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Merged Peace President invades Venezuela,/U.S. Forces Capture Maduro

Chris_Halkides said:
Reuters reported, "Venezuela is unlikely to see any meaningful boost to crude output for years even if U.S. oil majors do invest the billions of dollars in the country that President Donald Trump promised just hours following Nicolás Maduro's capture by U.S. forces. The South American country may have the world's largest estimated oil reserves, but output has plummeted over the past decades amid mismanagement and a lack of investment from foreign firms after Venezuela nationalized oil operations in the 2000s that included the assets of Exxon Mobil (XOM.N), and ConocoPhillips (COP.N),..."
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What does Reuters know? Fake news! They just need to turn the tap on like Trump ordered someone to do in California with the water (obviously he couldn't turn the tap on himself with his weak and easily bruised little hands).
 
Andy_Ross said:
John James
@JohnJamesMI
Me and my buddies fought in a 20-year war because Bush and Obama couldn’t get done in four terms what Trump just got done in four hours.

I voted for this!

https://twitter.com/x/status/2007475411890880817
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Not sure what is meant by that. The Taliban, Hussein, and Gaddafi were all deposed pretty quickly in the 20-year war following 9/11 (and by the way, Trump was president during the tail-end of that time), but the wars dragged on because they descended into sectarian conflict and nobody had the legitimacy to be recognized by the majority of the population in each country. It is foolish to imagine that this somehow must be different from that.
 
angrysoba said:
Not sure what is meant by that. The Taliban, Hussein, and Gaddafi were all deposed pretty quickly in the 20-year war following 9/11 (and by the way, Trump was president during the tail-end of that time), but the wars dragged on because they descended into sectarian conflict and nobody had the legitimacy to be recognized by the majority of the population in each country. It is foolish to imagine that this somehow must be different from that.
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Venezuela used to be a functional country before Chavez.

Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya never were.
 
Darat said:
But this one loves Trump!
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By July, the family and their lawyers had written an 18-page draft outlining some of the ways they might appeal to Trump’s pardon czar, Alice Marie Johnson. From Trump, they’d learned the language of modern political grievance: “Just like President Trump, President Hernández is a victim of lawfare, waged by the Biden administration.” If pardoned, Hernández would return to Honduras and dedicate himself to building a political movement in Latin America aligned with Trump’s foreign policy ambitions. The memo noted that Hondurans would go to the polls on Nov. 30 to elect a new president, and it suggested a timely pardon could energize conservatives in a region threatened by “radical left” regimes, including China and Venezuela. (Johnson didn’t respond to a request for comment.)

But it wasn’t only Trump who could benefit from a pardon. Castro, Hernández’s successor, repealed the legal framework that had established the country’s semi-autonomous economic development zones, including Próspera. That led the Honduran supreme court to declare those zones unconstitutional, triggering still-unresolved lawsuits from their investors. (Próspera continues to operate.) The memo asserted that Castro’s administration “has effectively stolen billions” from the financial backers of Próspera. The memo named Peter Thiel (“a longtime collaborator of Vice President J.D. Vance”) and Marc Andreessen (“who also donated millions to ensure that Trump’s policy goals could be achieved”).

A timely pardon—especially one delivered before the election—might remedy all that. It could also give Trump one more regional ally against the “narco-dicatorship” in Venezuela, where the Trump administration in September would begin launching military strikes against boats suspected of carrying drugs.

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Andy_Ross said:
Exactly what I would do.
Leave the Invading Americans absolutely nothing.
Start a guerilla war and kill as many Americans as possible.
They will give up and go away in humiliation like they did in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.

An occupation will not survive the flow of body bags.
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An occupation run by a sane person wouldn't. But would this strategy work against, oh, I don't know, say...a malignant narcissist who is also insane? I suggest it may not, that he may react to such a strategy by doubling down on his mistakes, then tripling-down.
 
Ziggurat said:
Venezuela used to be a functional country before Chavez.

Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya never were.
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Sure, but Trump has barely made the case for making Venezuela a functional country which suggests that the differences between the countries are likely to be less relevant.
 
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