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desertgal, coming from the #1 person who is responsible for that, you shouldn't be speaking about it. Besides I stopped reading your posts a long time ago and found that everything worked out nicer that way, and I am not saying that to sound offensive against you or anything. You know perfectly well that all that comes from you is arguments regarding my mental health when you know perfectly well that that isn't the topic here. I have a perfectly valid claim. I will not be speaking with you.

I have every reason to help claimant abr with his paranormal claim. It has got nothing to do with your hostilities against me or the reasons why I should refrain from engaging in my own threads. And you know abr's thread is not the place for you to post this.

I will be happy to help abr by volunteering for his telepathy experiment.

Then please stop.

I'm not responsible for what you choose to do. If you choose to make fun of the skeptics here, or refrain from participating in your own threads, it is purely by your own choice. I have no hostility towards you-merely contempt and pity. You have no valid claim(s). They are as bogus as your ethics. You are a troll. You have openly admitted it.
 
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desertgal, coming from the #1 person who is responsible for that, you shouldn't be speaking about it. Besides I stopped reading your posts a long time ago and found that everything worked out nicer that way, and I am not saying that to sound offensive against you or anything. You know perfectly well that all that comes from you is arguments regarding my mental health when you know perfectly well that that isn't the topic here. I have a perfectly valid claim. I will not be speaking with you.

I have every reason to help claimant abr with his paranormal claim. It has got nothing to do with your hostilities against me or the reasons why I should refrain from engaging in my own threads. And you know abr's thread is not the place for you to post this.

I will be happy to help abr by volunteering for his telepathy experiment.


Hmm... Neither you, abr, reason1, or anyone else has even come within a 1,000 miles of developing a protocol, let alone subject themselves to strictly controlled tests.

All hot air, and bugger-all "ability."

Why are you surprised that people here take Mickey Mouse more seriously than they take you et al?


M.
 
Please keep the thread civil and on topic - to abr's claim, not anyone else's.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero
 
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Please keep the thread civil and on topic - to reason1's claim, not anyone else's.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero
*cough*
This is abr's thread, not reason1

I know it's hard to tell the difference between trolls at times, but I thought I'd point it out for you...
 
*cough*
This is abr's thread, not reason1

I know it's hard to tell the difference between trolls at times, but I thought I'd point it out for you...

This is why I thought I'd lump the three of them together--it is difficult to tell them apart at times.

But chill's right. It's time for me to move on to greener pastures. Now where's the "next big thing" in trolldom gonna be? Here? Religion and Philosophy? We shall see. I do wish they'd get a bit more real, though. This is getting so boring!


M.
 
thanks for all your helps , i accept the protocol of jackagirl,give me the day and the time of the experiment and the name of the volunteer.

Hi, abr --

Excellent! : )

If you would like, I'd be happy to act as the moderator. Please be advised that I live in Japan; my time zone is GMT + 9 hours. That just means that if you live on the eastern side of the United States, I'm roughly 13-14 hours ahead of you; if it's 1pm where you are, it's 3am the next day where I am. That's why I tend to post at what is, for people in the US, night-time. : )

Before I ask someone to step up as a volunteer, please let us know what you need in order to properly focus on him or her. Do you need a picture? A location? Or any other target-identifying information? You may have already explained this, but could you give a recap? Before we actually ask for volunteers, they need to know what will be expected of them (some might not want to volunteer if, for example, you ask for a photo).

While you're working on the answer to that (which you should post here), could you PM me your initial choice of 10 words? What you and I will do is work on a good list of ten words (if for some reason I don't think your ten words are suitable). When we both agree on the ten words, I will post the hash of the ten words. If you do not know how to make a hash (so that you can check to make sure that I have not changed the list in any way), let me know (in your PM) what operating system you are using. I will send you the info.

Remember, don't post anything related to those ten words here. Don't PM anyone but me with the ten words, and don't PM anyone any clues or other discussion of what your ten words are.

Here is a recap of my protocol, just in case anyone needs it:

abr, you need to try something like this:

Materials:
trusted agent
receiver
sender (abr)

Protocol:
1. abr sends ten words to a trusted agent via PM. These words will be in English and will not involve similar concepts (e.g., "truck" and "car" are too similar). They will be spelled according to Webster's Dictionary; words with alternate spellings in different forms of English (e.g., "theatre" and "theater") will not be used.
1a. The trusted agent works with abr (via PM) if there are problems with the list (mis-spellings, duplicate concepts). When both the trusted agent and abr agree that the list is good, continue to step 2.
2. The trusted agent posts a hash of the list here. (This is a process which generates an encrypted file. It is almost impossible to crack*.)
3. abr posts the specific day, time, and duration in which he/she will send the words to the receiver. The time will be specified in both LOCAL and ZULU (GMT) time so that the receiver knows when to be ready to receive. For example, if abr is sending to Jackalgirl and states that he/she will be sending at 6pm local / 10pm zulu, Jackalgirl (who is in Japan) knows that she has to be ready to receive at 7am the next day. Note that duration must also be specified -- i.e., that abr will send for 10 minutes, or 30 minutes, or whatever.
4. The receiver accepts and acknowledges the date/time via a post here. If the time is not good for the receiver, he/she proposes an alternate time, to which the sender agrees (this process should be repeated until both parties agree to the date and time).
5. At the specified date and time, abr psychically sends the word list to the receiver.
6. At the conclusion of the sending period, the receiver posts the words which he/she has received, or feels that he/she has received.
7. The trusted agent posts the words sent to him/her by abr. Forum members can generate a hash of this list: if the encrypted hash they generate matches the one the trusted agent posted, they know that the trusted agent did not change the words.
8. If the receiver correctly identifies seven out of ten words (with the correct spelling), the test will be considered a success. If the receiver correctly identifies six or less out of ten words, the test will be considered a failure.

This is what people mean by protocol and by specifying levels of success or failure, abr.

Edited to add:

*By itself, the encryption algorithm is very strong. However, it's possible to crack these files if the person who generates them provides clues. This allows people to "crib" -- that is, to guess at words in the hash and see if they can reverse-engineer the hash. Solution? Don't provide clues.
 
it's ok i send the ten words to jackalgirl , who receive the ten words eirik or visionfromfeelings write it on the forum.
i send the words this night
 
abr, I will need to know what time in my time zone I should expect to receive the words from you because I will take that time to just sit and do nothing else but listen and do my best as the receiver. You will also need to tell me how many minutes we will spend on this. I still think that you should start by practicing with a friend who is nearby where you are so that you know where that person is. I would imagine telepathy being more difficult if you do not know the location of the person, or do not even know the person, and have no way of "connecting" to the person who is the receiver. Oh well give this a try. If it fails and you still think you have powers, practice with a friend close by where you live.

abr, do you have a friend who speaks good English? Someone who could help you to read the JREF Forum posts and to translate it to you and also help you write to us? Clear communication is important.

[VFF thread hijacking]
Take me and my claim for instance, even though I experience it as feeling vibrational information from a person and I most often even close my eyes when I do my "readings" of health information, I still need to see the person to know where they are, so that I can get a visual "feel" for where the person is. Otherwise I wouldn't know precisely where to target my ability to.
[/VFF thread hijacking]
 
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visionfromfeeling and eirik please give me the time of the experiment for this nignt, if you want 22h or 23h time of algeria
 
visionfromfeelings yes close your eyes you will see the ten words,it's easy but give me the time between sweden and algeria, if you want 22h time algeria
 
abr, I am not in Sweden I am in Charlotte, North Carolina.

It is now 3:15 pm in Algeria, am I right?
In Charlotte it is now 10:15 am.
So you and me have a 5 hour time difference.

How many minutes do you want for your experiment?
 
Hi abr. It is now 16:36 in Bergen, Norway. I'm assuming Jackalgirl is not online tonight, as it would be 01:30 in the morning in Japan(i think..). Should we procede? I got the impression that Jackalgirl wants clarification on the list of words, and that you must mak a hash of the list. An uncontrolled test does not benefit anybody. I think maybe we're jumping the gun here.

I suggest we wait and make sure that both Abr and Jackalgirl are happy with the the conditions of the test.

eirik
 
13 minutes for the experiment ,this night at 22h time of algeria so 17h in the usa.
and another test at ooh (algeria) so 19h(usa)
 
You and VFF can do a test run. I'll wait till we are sure the test conditions satisfies Jackalgirl. Good luck!
 
who receive the ten words write it , vff or eirik
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Neither, yet:
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1. abr sends ten words to <Jackalgirl> via PM. These words will be in English and will not involve similar concepts (e.g., "truck" and "car" are too similar). They will be spelled according to Webster's Dictionary; words with alternate spellings in different forms of English (e.g., "theatre" and "theater") will not be used.

1a. <Jackalgirl> works with abr (via PM) if there are problems with the list (mis-spellings, duplicate concepts). When both <Jackalgirl> and abr agree that the list is good, continue to step 2.

2. <Jackalgirl> posts a hash of the list here. (This is a process which generates an encrypted file. It is almost impossible to crack*.)
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All of this happens *before* the test, by your agreement.
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parking meter
beer
globe
hat
(and the last word was in tlhIngan Hol I think... was it dissentary?
 
abr, please read my protocol. You accepted it, but you don't seem to understand it.

I'm taking a look at the list now. Look for a PM from me. We can't proceed until I post the hash.

Edited to add: I assume, then, that you don't need any special information (such as photos) from your volunteer. Please pick ONE: eirik or Visionfromfeeling, as the protocol calls for a (one) receiver.
 
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Also I need confirmation from who ever is overseeing the experiment, Jackalgirl I presume before my involvement. (Alright, big words for abr... how do we write simple English... *thinking back to the days I was ten*)

abr do not try the experiment before I have agreed with you on the day and the time, and we are not there yet.

abr, I ask again, do you have a friend who speaks English who could help you read and write here?
 

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