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i want to do the experiement with the number of the forum ,the language of the experience in english,one of you close his mouth and say a sentence ,i will write it on paper,and i transmit a sentence for him and he write my sentence,i need your helps and how want to need me to prouve my experience i will give him the half of the million,play in team,who want to be my partner.
 
abr said:
... i need your helps and how want to need me to prouve my experience i will give him the half of the million,play in team,who want to be my partner.
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Only if you pay the half million in advance.
 
abr said:
one of you close his mouth and say a sentence ,i will write it on paper,and i transmit a sentence for him and he write my sentence.
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OK this is the beginning of a protocol, but you need to think more about how you would show that the result is self evidently better than chance, and eliminate the possibility of cheating.

For example if I took part and sent the sentence "I bet you can't guess what I'm thinking", and you wrote down "I don't think you know what I'm thinking" would you count that as a hit? How likely would you have been to guess it by chance?

A better protocol would be to have an agreed list of say 6 numbered sentences, all very different. You roll a die to pick one and concentrate on it, and the "receiver" picks the one they think you're sending. There's a one in six chance of guessing correctly so it's easy to work out how many runs you would need to do to produce a string of hits which you would only have a 1 in 1000 probability of getting by chance.

You also need someone trustworthy, say a forum moderator, to help ensure both of you are honest.

So a suitable protocol would be:

1. Establish a webcam link between you and the forum member volunteer

2. You roll a die and PM the moderator the number of the sentence chosen

3. You "send" that sentence to the volunteer

4. The volunteer PMs the moderator with the number of the sentence he/she thinks you are sending

5. Repeat 2 - 4 a pre-agreed number of times.

6. The moderator posts the numbers of the sentences sent and recieved for each run

7. If the number of hits is more than the pre-agreed success criteria you are judged to have passed the test

We have done several such online tests here in the past. If you succeed in passing such a test you will be ready to start the process of applying for the MDC.

Do you want our help to do such a test?

ETA: Actually it would be better if the moderator rolled the die and PM'd you the number of the sentence to send. That would eliminate at least one possible cheating scenario. You could also do some runs in which you send and others in which you receive, if you wish.
 
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the moderator send me a sentence by pm,i transmit it at the volunteer.
the volunteer will send the sentence at the moderator by pm.
the moderator will send me 6 or 7 sentence , like you want
 
So let me see if I getting this right - Abr proposes to transmit a thought to one of us, and if we telepathically get it right, HE has proven himself to be telepathic. Shouldn't that be the other way around?
 
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So let me see if I getting this right - Abr proposes to transmit a thought to one of us, and if we telepathically get it right, HE has proven himself to be telepathic. Shouldn't that be the other way around?
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He's actually said he can do it both ways round.
 
abr said:
i want to do the experiement with the number of the forum ,the language of the experience in english,one of you close his mouth and say a sentence ,i will write it on paper,and i transmit a sentence for him and he write my sentence,i need your helps and how want to need me to prouve my experience i will give him the half of the million,play in team,who want to be my partner.
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This setup (even the one posted later in this thread) seems like it leaves far too many oppportunities for cheating. I think the suggestions made in the other thread to approach a psychology department at a local university would be a much better idea.
 
Hi abr. I'll play.
Just send me the sentences when you are ready. And for the record, I can't see how one can cheat at this. But I'm no magician:)

So- someone else, eg Chillzero PMs or mails 6 sentences to abr. He will then transmit them telepathically to me. I will post sentences on the forum as/if I recieve them.

Even though I'm not sure this qualify as media attention, I will be impressed if this works.
 
give me the time and the day of the experiment,who want to give me contact of psychology department or unity of paranormal
 
abr,
Do your own research in your own country for your own local contacts and universities for the MDC. Report back in the MDC thread.

For this thread, focus on sorting out a method by which you and a volunteer or two (or more) will do this experiment you are asking for help with.
 
I'm a bit confused about where the webcam comes in. abr, can you clarify this? Do you need to be able to see the person you are transmitting to, or can this experiment be done just using PMs on this forum? The other important things to know here are how long does it take you to transmit a sentence, and does the person you send it to have to know when it is being sent and have to be listening?

It would certainly be easier without any webcams being involved. Adapting Pixel42's protocol slightly:

Equipment required -
1*abr
1*moderator
1*volunteer
1*6-sided die
1*internet

1) MC picks 6 sentences of 10 words each, from a book for example.
2) The sentences are posted publically in a numbered list.
3) MC rolls a standard six-sided die and sends the matching sentence to abr in a PM.
4) abr sends sentence psychically to reciever.*
5) Reciever PMs MC the number of the sentence he has recieved.
6) Steps 1-4 are repeated 10 times using different sets of sentences.
7) Profit!

It is important that there can be no communication between abr and the volunteer at all (other than psychically of course). Since it would be extremely easy for abr to simply PM the volunteer, or talk to them outside the forum, the volunteer would need to be just as trusted as the MC.
Since this would be a very basic preliminary test, there is no set level for passing. I would consider 3/10 or more to be interesting, but given the lack of decent controls even 10/10 wouldn't really prove anything.

abr, would you consider this acceptable? If so, we just need to know when you would be able to spend an hour or so doing this. Then we can go about finding some victims volunteers to take part. If it can be done in the evening (GMT) on a weekday, I can probably play MC, otherwise you'll have to find someone else.
 
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