Obama Win Now Inevitable?

Jimbo07 said:
Wut diffrence tween primary n caucus?

(for us non-USAianites)
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Primaries are just like regular elections. You go into a polling place during voting hours (typically about a 12-hour period), fill in your ballot, submit it and go home. Caucuses are more like conventions, where you show up at a specified time, listen to speeches by candidate surrogates, then vote. In many, perhaps most caucuses, votes are public, not private (unlike primaries), and the process can take several hours as compared to primaries, where one can easily be in and out in ten minutes. Caucuses tend to draw the more committed party regulars where primaries (because of the simpler nature) draw from a broader spectrum of the electorate.
 
Brainster said:
Caucuses tend to draw the more committed party regulars where primaries (because of the simpler nature) draw from a broader spectrum of the electorate.
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Do you need to be a registered member of the party to vote in a caucus?
 
Jimbo07 said:
Do you need to be a registered member of the party to vote in a caucus?
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Yes, but it varies in technical details.

In Hawaii, for example, you had to be a registered Democrat to caucus, but you were allowed to register at the door.

In Texas, you had to prove that you'd voted Democrat in the primaries before you could caucus.

Under the American constitution, each party in each state could in principle elect its delegates by doing "eeney-meeney-miney-mo". In practice, each state comes up with its own idea of what is fair and reasonable, which varies from state to state.
 
BenBurch said:
They get to decide what the rules are, and they did that. But what I meant was that you cannot use that tally as a measure of popular support as it was structurally biased.
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You have not been following politics very long, have you?


The Democratic party will CHOOSE the candidate which it thinks will win the general election.

The primaries and caucuses are a show to drum up support for the CHOSEN candidate.
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
You have not been following politics very long, have you?


The Democratic party will CHOOSE the candidate which it thinks will win the general election.

The primaries and caucuses are a show to drum up support for the CHOSEN candidate.
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The Republican party should probably take some lessons from the Democrats then, because it didn't work out that way for them.
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
You have not been following politics very long, have you?


The Democratic party will CHOOSE the candidate which it thinks will win the general election.

The primaries and caucuses are a show to drum up support for the CHOSEN candidate.
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IIRC, you believe that the "CHOSEN candidate" is Hillary, yes?

We are so going to have the laugh on you, my friend.
 
Spindrift said:
The Republican party should probably take some lessons from the Democrats then, because it didn't work out that way for them.
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Oh, you are so naive. Obviously John McCain was chosen by the Illuminati and the Reptilians and the Evil Joos ... but they pretended that he wasn't the chosen candidate so as to fool the sheeple into voting for him.

They're always one step ahead, and whatever happens is always exactly what they wanted.

Even JEROME DA GNOME, did he but know it, poor fool, is just an innocent pawn in their little game.
 
Dr Adequate said:
IIRC, you believe that the "CHOSEN candidate" is Hillary, yes?

We are so going to have the laugh on you, my friend.
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You are going to laugh if someone is wrong? Rather sandbox, is that not? Besides, my being wrong about which candidate is ultimately chosen by the party leadership does not invalidate the fact that the party leadership chooses the candidate which they believe is the best candidate for the general election. The current system is designed to prevent another McGovern.
 
Dr Adequate said:
Oh, you are so naive. Obviously John McCain was chosen by the Illuminati and the Reptilians and the Evil Joos ... but they pretended that he wasn't the chosen candidate so as to fool the sheeple into voting for him.

They're always one step ahead, and whatever happens is always exactly what they wanted.

Even JEROME DA GNOME, did he but know it, poor fool, is just an innocent pawn in their little game.
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Here is a starting point for your education in the Democratic choosing process.

George McGovern

Equating a major party choosing its candidate with Reptilian CT is about as weak an argument as could be made. Try some education about the American political process before engaging in such silliness.
 
Upchurch said:
I've been thinking about this. Are either Obama or Clinton "another McGovern"?
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It is the opinion of the party leadership which matters. Neither of these candidates may be another McGovern. The point is the system is designed so that the party leadership chooses the candidate.

ETA: McGovern was just the reason that the party created the current system of leadership choice. They wanted to prevent the voters from choosing a poor candidate in the primaries.
 
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JEROME DA GNOME said:
It is the opinion of the party leadership which matters. Neither of these candidates may be another McGovern. The point is the system is designed so that the party leadership chooses the candidate.

ETA: McGovern was just the reason that the party created the current system of leadership choice. They wanted to prevent the voters from choosing a poor candidate in the primaries.
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So, is there any evidence that the party leadership is going to communicate with one another and decide how each superdelegate will vote?
 
mortimer said:
So, is there any evidence that the party leadership is going to communicate with one another and decide how each superdelegate will vote?
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That is how the process works. You are familiar with politics, are you not? The system was set-up for this express purpose. I am sorry to say, but your question is ridiculous.
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
The Democratic party will CHOOSE the candidate which it thinks will win the general election.
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I won't comment on the correctness of this (because I don't know), but shouldn't it be this way? At a Canadian party's convention, they wrangle and vote multiple times, but only registered party members may vote, and the ability to win elections is one consideration...
 
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