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Several clients and former employers have made a point of not training staff on the grounds that "if we train them then they will leave". How can any company do well when their business model involves keeping their staff so chronically undertrained that they are effectively unemployable elsewhere ?

OTOH I have found that offering comprehensive and ongoing training is a good way to recruit and retain the sort of people I want to have working for me.

It's the same issue as with competing on price. It's essentially the worst way of making someone work for you.

If they're simply concerned about employees leaving, it is perfectly reasonable to make a contract that will prevent the employee receiving training from resigning for a certain amount of time.

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You asked, I answered. Complex ramifications from a decision always have some negative and some positive, but immigration was one of the key perceived benefits of the Leave vote.

And it was also perceived that the UK would be like Switzerland and Norway.
 
We already control our borders. Indeed so much so we control them in part on the land of another country!

How long we will control of our borders in another country is another question.

At least we will be able to keep EU countries out, unless they start hiding in lorries.
 
Competing on price is the worst way of competing one should attempt only when all other options are exhausted. If your aim is to compete only on price from the onset you've already lost. You may still reap some benefits eventually, but the price will be terrible - China is a prime example. It's still better off overall, but not nearly by as much as the economic figures appear to show.

Funnily enough, Germany is highly competitive, despite the 'overburdening' EU regulations and despite being outright slackers compared to many developed nations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_time#Average_annual_hours_actually_worked_per_worker

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I'm always amazed why people are always puzzled by the UK low productivity per person figures compared to those lazy French and unionised Germans.

It shows to me that some people do not understand that in nearly every case you get higher productivity from happy and committed staff.
 
You asked, I answered. Complex ramifications from a decision always have some negative and some positive, but immigration was one of the key perceived benefits of the Leave vote.
Hang on you said control our borders nothing about immigration. I think you've used one of those dog whistles didn't you?
 
And exactly what could the UK offer Australia that the EU couldn't?
How will such a deal help the UK offset the potential problems with EU trade?
Not only that how much of our exports to Australia are because we are part of the EU? I would be very surprised if there wasn't a high percentage of EU trade hidden in those figures.
 
Hang on you said control our borders nothing about immigration. I think you've used one of those dog whistles didn't you?

I too noticed that particular switch but couldn't be bothered going over the same old ground again. If I've learned anything about Leave talking points its that further information is unlikely to affect them being repeated.
 
Hang on you said control our borders nothing about immigration. I think you've used one of those dog whistles didn't you?

I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about that all along. What did you think I was talking about when I said "borders"? I mean, this issue has been discussed quite a bit over the last couple of months.
 
I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about that all along. What did you think I was talking about when I said "borders"? I mean, this issue has been discussed quite a bit over the last couple of months.

Well borders concerns people coming into an out of your country.

Immigration concerns people who settle there.

Different things. You knew that though.
 
I see the first step in 'leaving the EU to make it easier for us to bring in hard working people from outside of Europe' is to increase the earnings threshold for non-EU immigrants to £35k.

That's about the 80th percentile of UK salaries I believe. Sounds fair. No..not fair... the other word that starts with f.
 
Boris should be on EbS+live at 6pm UK time if anybody is interested.

Edit, looks like I am wrong on the time.
 
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So what bargaining chip(s) does the UK have?
I think one of the big ones (which the UK doesn't actually have to do anything to wield) is the reality that anti-EU populism has scored a significant victory in the UK, and it's also on the rise in several EU countries. The EU applying all sticks and no carrots to negotiations with the UK could backfire against the interest of incumbent leaders like Hollande and Renzi, probably also Merkel given those two.

Major financial institutions, which is the most important sector in the UK economy, have already announced plans they're leaving the sinking ship.
Overstated. Several EU countries have been eager to grab financial business from London for decades, arguably it is cluster-network effects that drove London's ascent not just being in the EU. Brexit probably kills off the financial transactions tax in the EU if it wasn't already dead in the water. If the EU was to somehow try to go ahead with it (pretty sure that won't happen) then there would be a massive incentive for firms to book flow business in London not the EU. In respect of "passporting" most institutions have sales offices in the EU anyway, the location of operations staff and other staff is more to do with cost and talent base, London never scored well on cost but scooped location despite that and because of the latter (and most bankers don't suddenly want to move to Frankfurt), moreover London did actually just get cheaper. Also a great many financial products sold in Europe by institutions whose main base is in London are actually registered in places like Luxembourg or Dublin anyway (because . . . . firms tended to have long thought the UK was less likely to remain in the EU than others), so the issue then becomes whether or not these EU registered products can be sold in the UK post Brexit, which would perhaps entail registering them in the UK. And the UK is a large demand pool for a lot of financial products, in many aspects bigger than France, Italy, Spain.

I think finance will lose jobs and business to the EU on aggregate but no idea how severely. For sure the UK isn't going to sit idly by and let it walk though.
 
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Not only that how much of our exports to Australia are because we are part of the EU? I would be very surprised if there wasn't a high percentage of EU trade hidden in those figures.
That is a very interesting question, the answer to which I don't know but will attemp to determine.
 
Not only that how much of our exports to Australia are because we are part of the EU? I would be very surprised if there wasn't a high percentage of EU trade hidden in those figures.

I already answered this in detail in post 2406. All of our deals with countries outside of the EU have been negotiated as part of EU trade deals. We need to renegotiate and agree all those deals plus whatever deals with the EU countries just to keep the trade of the U.K.on the same footing as we have now.
 
I already answered this in detail in post 2406. All of our deals with countries outside of the EU have been negotiated as part of EU trade deals. We need to renegotiate and agree all those deals plus whatever deals with the EU countries just to keep the trade of the U.K.on the same footing as we have now.

I think you misunderstood my question or I've misread your post and misunderstood it.

Let me try to create a hypothetical: we export a billion worth of cars to Australia, those cars consist of 1/2 a billion worth of components that are assembled in the UK to make a car, 50% of those components come from EU countries so tariff free and to a set standard.

That's what I meant by asking how much are our exports are based on internal EU trade. We could find that our cars now are going to cost 10% more to produce because of a trade agreement between the UK and EU. Would a 10% increase in price keep the same level of export to Australia?

That's what I meant by how much of our current trade to non-EU countries relies on our membership of the EU - not really anything to do about how the EU trade deals with a country like Australia are agreed and implemented at the moment.
 
I think one of the big ones (which the UK doesn't actually have to do anything to wield) is the reality that anti-EU populism has scored a significant victory in the UK, and it's also on the rise in several EU countries.
Some actual polls suggest that support for the EU has gone up since the referendum result, mostly recruited from the "don't care" camp. The Farages of the Other 27 are getting their fifteen minutes of fame, but the example the UK is presenting has concentrated a lot of minds.

That's the significance of the UK referendum. An object lesson in complacency.

The EU applying all sticks and no carrots to negotiations with the UK could backfire against the interest of incumbent leaders like Hollande and Renzi, probably also Merkel given those two.
They have much bigger issues than Brexit.

Overstated. Several EU countries have been eager to grab financial business from London for decades, arguably it is cluster-network effects that drove London's ascent not just being in the EU.
Being in the EU has been part of London's environment for forty years. All its development over that time - which is to say, all the financial world's development over the last forty years - has occurred within that environment. London's domination of the financial world predates the EU by centuries anyway, and not without competition.

What Franfurt was trying a month ago took place in a different environment from today's.

Brexit probably kills off the financial transactions tax in the EU if it wasn't already dead in the water.
Didn't Singapore do that decades ago?
 
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