angrysoba
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Is this what they said or how what they said was interpreted?
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Is this what they said or how what they said was interpreted?
Lothian
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There is no doubt that those voting Brexit were the less intelligent.
The uneducated voted 82% in favour of Brexit.
57% of those with degrees voted to remain.
Hm, interesting (and not too surprising). Do you have a link to the study perhaps?
McHrozni
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Assuming that we push the Brexit button in the next few months, another Greece is less likely to be a shock to our national system than it would be if we weren't on our way out of the EU. This is one of the reasons to leave the EU.
Also you can bet your arse that if anything major league serious happens in the world on the lines of the ME blowing up, or Korea getting all nuclear that we'll drop our petty squabbling for a while, unite against a common enemy and deal with it.
Your missing out on possible Doom too. A large natural disaster would also upset the apple cart, another Tsunami, massive hurricane or a near Earth asteroid strike.
If my view is too rose tinted, then your view is too pessimistic. So the reality will probably lie somewhere between the two, would you agree?
Do you know what the saddest thing is in all of this?
The biggest news story right now in the world today is that the Juno NASA probe has achieved stable orbit of Jupiter. That's a staggering technical accomplishment and the papers ought to be full of space stuff. Instead they're full of political stuff.
We need to do more, a lot more, of these big space exploration type of things. Humanity is at it's very best when it co-operates to put people on the moon, or rovers on Mars, or Probes around far flung, and poorly understood planets. We need to put people on Mars, establish a permanent moon colony, look on Europa and in other places for possible life in our solar system. Missions like Juno, if they are given the media hype that they deserve inspire whole new generations of people to become astrophysicists, or engineers, or biologists etc etc
How many genius scientists, that could have perhaps figured out a much more efficient solar cell or how many superb school teachers that can inspire our children have been lost to the world, because they ended up becoming finance wizards instead, as that's much more lucrative.
We all spend far too little of our collective national budgets on space exploration, and science, and devote far too few pages of our media (and our internet forums) to the same.
The world has got it's priorities wrong, and that's a much, much harder problem to fix.
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That's what it's saying, afaics. It's the 'in favour of capital punishment' element that determines the voting tendency, not the wealth.
Lothian
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There is a very good reason for this. See table 57 of Lord Ashcroft's poll. They were only given 4 preselected options to rank. Decisions in the UK, immigration, economy and EU expansion.
If you don't give an option don't be surprised if it is not picked.
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True, but they correlate very highly.
Lothian
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Lord Ashcroft's polls dataset (Table 3 covers education)
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/How-the-UK-voted-Full-tables-1.pdf
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This is not based on any analysis that I've seen. If UK was using Euro, maybe.
Certainly, but I wasn't suggesting anything like that would happen anyway. If ME blows up, they won't threaten Europe anytime soon. The economic fallout will hit the UK though.
I'm not missing out, I'm merely pointing out the severe and likely events for the next couple of years.
No, I think my view is entirely realistic while yours is far too rosy.
Thank your Brexitard stars for that.
Incidentally, you do know what will happen to British science funding if UK leaves the EU, right?
http://slimfast.com/
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angrysoba
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Oh, I see. It seems that the working class and non workers voted leave in large numbers whereas the wealthy and upper middle class voted remain. Presumably then the attitudes to the death penalty in the classes being referred to above are outliers or at least minorities in their social class.
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Actually the papers are usually always dominated by politics and celebrity gossip. There's an interminable election campaign happening in the US, the Australians can't decide on a leader and there'd be pages of referendum fallout still had Remain won 52/48 as well.
Assuming you mean the UK leaving the EU and not the UK leaving the UK (which would be a whole other set of problems) then science funding will shrink, but only in the short term.
angrysoba
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If some of the U.K. Leaves the UK - Scotland for example.
Yes, that was a typo, I was still able to edit the post and have corrected it. What makes you think it will be limited to the short term? It's not like the British economy will survive intact.
McHrozni
What makes you think that ?
The attitude of the current Conservative government towards science funding certainly doesn't give a basis for that optimism. The Labour Party may be better inclined towards science funding (or at least it was before the crash of 2008) but IMO there's no reason to assumed a cash-strapped Labour-led government would indulge in largesse towards the scientific community.
In a post-Brexit "little England" where sending money to Europe is frowned upon then there would be much less scope for UK scientists to work on joint projects across Europe.
Aepervius
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Yeah that is the usual problem of poll. IMO The only good one are the one which allows to give your reason. That is why when i see people touting that poll, I am wondering if they understand how flawed it can be to have only pre-canned answer. Or how misleading you can construct intentioanlly a poll.
The first thing that pops into my head there is about pirates and their effect on global warming.
In other words, could this simply be an artifact rather than actual determining thing?
Scientists co-operate with other scientists all over the world. My daughter has been involved in American studies in Kenya, Swedish studies in Germany, South African studies in Zambia, Danish projects in Scotland, and so on. She has a New Zealand project in the pipeline. Being in the EU is useful, but not critical. Science will continue to be done across borders, including in joint projects with EU countries as it is currently done with non-EU countries, as it has been for donkey's years, irrespective of membership of the EU.
Sure, and no one is claiming that this sort of cooperation won't continue. The claim you're supposed to address is that British science will receive less funding and be less efficient as a result of Brexit, because many project either recieve funding through the EU or are a result of EU-sponsored cooperation. Please provide your evidence or at least reasoning of how the UK will fill the gap that will form.
McHrozni
Surely they can have some of the £350 mill a week?
There's plenty to go round, it seems...
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