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I am near certain jobs will move to EU countries. But 2000 people in Canary Wharf have not been told to pack up their coffee mugs in cardboard boxes today. Just like we have not embarked on an immediate flurry of no-red-tape free-trade excitement with half a dozen countries yet either
 
That is an example of an EU member *not* replying with "OK let's whack the Brits with the pointy end of our big stick to keep everyone else in line . . . . out means out etc " . . .
 
God knows which thread this belongs in, but there is a motion of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn tabled for a hearing next week. BBC
 
MikeG said:
God knows which thread this belongs in, but there is a motion of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn tabled for a hearing next week. BBC
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Hardly surprising, the parliamentary Labour Party have had it in for Corbyn from the outset. Whether he gets the backing of the membership this time round is another matter....
 
R4 reported at lunchtime that some in the PLP are setting out to collect the 50 signatures required to trigger a leadership election. Interesting to speculate who they think they might be able to collectively support in place of Corbyn.....Kate Howey? Gisella Stewart? (Sorry, haven't looked up the spellings).
 
A Scot of my acquaintance wonders what would happen if the Scottish Parliament refuses to consent the alteration in conditions (the devolved parliaments are all legally required to operate within EU law and these requirements would have to be repealed).
A constitutional crisis in the making perhaps?
 
So the UK exports lots to the USA? It would be interesting, and indeed I'd do it if I could, if the USA put a hold on those post EU as a message to other nations that they should perhaps not vote for racism.
 
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Hmm. not so sure, IMO both need to (exit and) devalue their new currencies, and take the medicine (pain) to get out of this, it will never happen while head-locked into the EU's continuing downward debt spiral.

IMO it's just not sustainable for Greece & Germany to use the same currency forever, so they wont.
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Sorry, but it is clear you have not thought it through t all. It won't matter what happen to their new currencies. They would be worthless anyway, but all the debt would be still there in full, because all the debt Greece and Spain have is in Euro, USD and likely Yen /IIRC China lent some money to Greece). So your plan would fail before it would get even implemented.

But then, Greece and Spain would have no capital left as all of it would move outside in light speed. All we would get is another Zimbabwe or Argentina...

BTW: Eurozone already bailed Greece once or twice. Otherwise there would be nothing left long ago thanks to their corruption and accounting cheating.
 
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So the UK exports lots to the USA? It would be interesting, and indeed I'd do it if I could, if the USA put a hold on those post EU as a message to other nations that they should perhaps not vote for racism.
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Yeah, nothing would be more productive and appreciated by a population that just voted out foreign elites than punitive action by foreign elites.
 
Travis said:
So the UK exports lots to the USA? It would be interesting, and indeed I'd do it if I could, if the USA put a hold on those post EU as a message to other nations that they should perhaps not vote for racism.
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I know literally scores of Leave voters. Not a single one of them voted that way because of immigration or xenophobia. Having control of the governance of this country was the over-riding motivation for voting Leave, and your petty racism slur is as baseless as it is insulting.
 
MikeG said:
God knows which thread this belongs in, but there is a motion of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn tabled for a hearing next week. BBC
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I suspect they see an election this year as a real possibility and Corbyn as not the man to lead the Labour effort, hence the timing.
 
MikeG said:
R4 reported at lunchtime that some in the PLP are setting out to collect the 50 signatures required to trigger a leadership election. Interesting to speculate who they think they might be able to collectively support in place of Corbyn.....Kate Howey? Gisella Stewart? (Sorry, haven't looked up the spellings).
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Doesn't have to be pro-Brexit. There are any number of PLP members who'd like the job. None of the failed candidates owe him anything.
 
The Don said:
Doesn't have to be pro-Brexit. There are any number of PLP members who'd like the job. None of the failed candidates owe him anything.
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Indeed. If it's pro-Brexit, though, their choice is small. I have to say that of all the Brexiteers, (from any party) I was mightily impressed with Gisella Stewart.
 
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Sorry, but it is clear you have not thought it through t all. It won't matter what happen to their new currencies. They would be worthless anyway, but all the debt would be still there in full, because all the debt Greece and Spain have is in Euro, USD and likely Yen /IIRC China lent some money to Greece). So your plan would fail before it would get even implemented.
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apologies I thought default / restructure / knock the Euro banks they "owe" etc was implicit in my comment. and no I dont think China lent them anything, unless indirectly through the IMF

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BTW: Eurozone already bailed Greece once or twice. Otherwise there would be nothing left long ago thanks to their corruption and accounting cheating.
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otherwise the European banks they owe, wouldn't have been paid (the same day) with the bailout money you mean?
 
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'Martin Schulz, the president of the European parliament, told the Guardian that EU lawyers were studying whether it was possible to speed up the triggering of article 50 – the untested procedure for leaving the European Union.

“Uncertainty is the opposite of what we need,” Schulz said, adding that it was difficult to accept that “a whole continent is taken hostage because of an internal fight in the Tory party”.'

Amen. Article

Meanwhile Johnson is saying "No rush" as if it were entirely up to the UK.
 
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