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Norman Dodd

Bubba said:
Within institutions plans/programs evolve, spanning generations. The transcript indicates the need for a long term program was recognized at the outset, ie planning to re-structure education systems.

Hardly rocket science. I'm surprised it required explaining
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OK then, since it is not Rocket Science, you obviously know how education programmes have been re-structured from those in 1953. So, since you refused to provide detail of how Obamacare came about due to a long range plan started in 1953, you need to explain how education programmes have been re-structured (outside the fact that the world is a tad different now than it was - we know a lot more about a lot more.

Or was that part of the plan too? You claim to know so much about so much, but when it comes to any detail at all, you just go into unevidenced statements which to me indicate that you are doing nothing more than blowing wind. Prove me wrong. Provide a detailed treatise on Education Programmes since 1953.

Norm
 
Bubba said:
Within institutions plans/programs evolve, spanning generations. The transcript indicates the need for a long term program was recognized at the outset, ie planning to re-structure education systems.
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If you suspect that an equivalent plan exists today, then post evidence for that plan. Don't demand that people follow your "There once was, therefore must now be" inference. Your claims require your explanation because the number of non sequiturs possible at any given time is functionally infinite. We don't know which one you might be proposing today.
 
Bubba said:
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Within institutions plans/programs evolve, spanning generations. The transcript indicates the need for a long term program was recognized at the outset, ie planning to re-structure education systems.

Hardly rocket science. I'm surprised it required explaining
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It does need explaining, a lot of explaining.
  1. Who are "they"?
  2. What is their ultimate Agenda and what part did the Soviet Union play in it?
  3. You've mentioned education. What is "their" purpose in altering our education system. How are "they" doing so? What evidence do you have that changes in our education system are the result of a malevolent conspiracy rather then just bureaucratic inertia? (see also Hanlon's razor)
 
mgardner said:
It does need explaining, a lot of explaining.
  1. Who are "they"?
  2. What is their ultimate Agenda and what part did the Soviet Union play in it?
  3. You've mentioned education. What is "their" purpose in altering our education system. How are "they" doing so? What evidence do you have that changes in our education system are the result of a malevolent conspiracy rather then just bureaucratic inertia? (see also Hanlon's razor)
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Martin you're alive!
 
Oh heavens to Betsy! Political hacks stirring up red panic in the 1950's? Get me my smelling salts!
 
JayUtah said:
If you suspect that an equivalent plan exists today, then post evidence for that plan. Don't demand that people follow your "There once was, therefore must now be" inference. Your claims require your explanation because the number of non sequiturs possible at any given time is functionally infinite. We don't know which one you might be proposing today.
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Thank you Jay.


Were I to make a claim regarding this it might sound something like:

I find this video interview and transcript interesting. I share it in case anyone is interested. I cannot prove Dodd is on the level. His story seems supportive of related claims.

Although it is older, I thought maybe no one here had heard of it. I am not really making a claim.
 
Bubba said:
Although it is older, I thought maybe no one here had heard of it. I am not really making a claim.
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So this is not a claim?

Long term, spanning generations is OK with them.
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Or this?

Within institutions plans/programs evolve, spanning generations. The transcript indicates the need for a long term program was recognized at the outset, ie planning to re-structure education systems.
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Or this?

They knew they could not use force as in russia. They have time.
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You really ought to read what you write before trying to back off so far, and try to pretend what you write does not exist.

Norm
 
fromdownunder said:
So this is not a claim?



Or this?



Or this?



You really ought to read what you write before trying to back off so far, and try to pretend what you write does not exist.

Norm
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Huh, those do look like claims, except its all speculation on my part. I should specify that in future, thanks.
 
Bubba said:
Not joking. Just not claiming anything in particular.
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Garbage. You were claiming something, but you just could not justify what you said. And never even tried.

You just fell for more woo
It's what you do.

And now you are pretending that what you said never happened. Try harder next time. Here is a thought. Before posting something, use google and look for alternative ideas. It will save you time in trying to back off and try to defend stupidly ignorant claims.

Norm
 
Bubba said:
Speculation and digs would be mutually exclusive?
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Yes. When you accuse your critics of being thick-headed for not guessing correctly what you intended to follow from your newly-confessed speculation, you can't expect to be taken seriously. It's not rocket science.
 
JayUtah said:
Yes. When you accuse your critics of being thick-headed for not guessing correctly what you intended to follow from your newly-confessed speculation, you can't expect to be taken seriously. It's not rocket science.
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I see. I thought I had already explained what the poster implied had not been explained.

Otherwise I'd apologize. I'd rather not accuse critics of being thick-headed for not guessing correctly where it isnt clear.
 
threadworm said:
As a citizen of a nation that has had free health care for decades, it amuses me no end that it is seen as an underhand method of introducing a Soviet style state.

God forbid that poor people should be healthy.
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Obamacare is a Communist plot to make Americans healthy? How unbelievably demonic!!!
 
tsig said:
Obamacare is a Communist plot to make Americans healthy? How unbelievably demonic!!!
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No, no the evil plot is its to get people to use the health care system.

Which will actually kill them ..... or is about teaching communism in Bible class or putting rat poison in tacos? ....or sumthin'
 
Aw, jeez, Bubba!

The guy was a fantasist. Ask yourself... GOP in the White House. GOP run committees investigating communism and conspiracies everywhere... 1953.... WHY DIDN'T THIS INFORMATION SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY IN 1953?

This was canned conspiracy drek that Dodd was selling to anyone who'd listen to him. He rehearsed it and fine-tuned it. Look at the full text and the claim that they were taking orders from The White House. Really?

A global evil conspiracy hears that "the famous" (as in just about unknown) Norman Dodd is going to be heading the investigatory wing of Reece's committee. So, do they pack their bags and light out for Tegucigalpa? Do they quake in their expensive Fifth Avenue boots? Why, no. They invite the intrepid investigator over, and lay out their evil plot like in any cheap B movie. And who was that who told him all this.... Why, Gaither... the author of the Gaither Report suggesting to Ike (the president who must've been winking and saying "It's okay to take over the world, Rowland") that the US needed to ramp up its defenses and ability to deal with nuclear attack by the Rooskis! Shouldn't a globalist be selling the POTUS on not doing that?

So now we've got Ike in on it. And I guess that means Ike's farewell warning about the military-industrial complex taking over the country was just a red herring to keep George Noory off the scent. Oh, and to make sure a black president finally passed some variation on "national health" fifty years later.

He's anti-fed, anti-globalization, and pro-Dodd. He held a minor vice presidency in a bank in '29. Then again, anyone with an education was a bank or brokerage veep in '29. Many of those took to practicing their gainer-one-and-a-half off of skyscraper ledges, and many were simply laid off, but not our intrepid hero. No, he was given a do-nothing job and implicitly told to not reveal his startling solution to the financial crisis.... "We've got to get back to sound banking..." Gasp!! No! Not sound banking!

Oh, an he also figured out that it wasn't the geo-politics of the late 19th century and the struggle for hegemony over central Europe that caused WWI. No, it was THE CARNEGIE & GUGGENHEIM FOUNDATION. He was ahead of his time, obviously. The rest of us didn't learn of this before NEVER!!!!

Check out his testimony six years earlier to the Illinois State House. Same whacky crap. He just fine-tuned it by the time of this "interview". And like in this interview you can see that he had a state congress critter feeding him his leading questions.
 
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