New telepathy test, the sequel.

Actually, we don't really know how weak these radio emissions from our brains are, because they seem to have never been measured seriously (they might actually not be so weak).

You might like to look up "electroencephalography". People have been detecting, measuring and studying the electrical output of human brains for almost a century.
 
You all love logic and critical thinking and you believe that if people are shown how illogical their belief systems are then they will change. That will not happen in this case. yes, it is sad; but continuing to argue with someone who has repeatedly stated he will not change his mind no matter what evidence is presented is a fool's errand and helps nobody.

You are correct, and I regret having been tempted to join in again. I'll bow out now, hopefully for the last time.
 
You might like to look up "electroencephalography". People have been detecting, measuring and studying the electrical output of human brains for almost a century.
I am well aware of EEG (I mentioned it in my post #156). I was writing about electromagnetic radiation by the brain in the radio frequency range (and, in the case of telepathy, the most interesting frequencies are probably around 10 MHz, I suppose (though this is really unproved speculation)). The radio frequency range starts at 3 kHz (see my post #153, where I quoted wikipedia), while EEG frequencies are at most about 100 Hz, as I explained to you in post #156 (I hope that you know what a frequency is, and what MHz means).

As far as I know, electromagnetic radiation by the brain around 10 MHz has never been measured seriously, making such a measurement would certainly much more difficult than stating "this poster will not change his mind no matter what evidence is presented", after a beer or two.
 
I'll repeat my question and rephrase:

Assume you learned tomorrow that you have no telepathic ability.
How would your life change? Would you be better or worse off and why?

This is not a trick question--because I don't know your answer and I can't even speculate on it. I just am curious as to your mindset.
 
Yes, thanks, I'm familiar with the terminology.

10MHz happens to be a radio frequency much used by radio amateurs for long distance communication. There have been people listening intently to the 10MHz/30 metre band for many decades. So far as I'm aware, nobody has yet reported reception from a distant source being interfered with by the presence of human brains closer to the receiver. Not even if there were many millions of them within a few miles.
 
I'll repeat my question and rephrase:

Assume you learned tomorrow that you have no telepathic ability.
How would your life change? Would you be better or worse off and why?

This is not a trick question--because I don't know your answer and I can't even speculate on it. I just am curious as to your mindset.
I find your question a little perverse, stanfr, so I shall omit answering it.
 
I find your question a little perverse, stanfr, so I shall omit answering it.

How in any way shape or form is it perverse?

Time to add a new event

Events so far ( I know I missed a few)

  1. Michel made a telepathy test with only four options, He failed.
  2. Michel makes another test addinign in MD5 hash to try and get honest answers, He fails again.
  3. Michel makes yet another test and inroduces his credibility meter and using cherry picking selects only answers he deems to be sincere, the test was a failure yet again.
  4. Michel claims to be able to spot sarcasm and jokes but has taken numerous joke posts seriously.
  5. Michel claims he can detect lies but goes 0-5 when tested.
  6. Michel says being under water or in a submarine may block his thoughts but he isn't sure.
  7. Michel now thinks nearly very honest question is either a trick question
  8. Michel is asked a direct, non leading, non trick, straight forward question, He refuses to answer and labels the question "perverse".
 
How in any way shape or form is it perverse?

Time to add a new event

Events so far ( I know I missed a few)

  1. Michel made a telepathy test with only four options, He failed.
  2. Michel makes another test addinign in MD5 hash to try and get honest answers, He fails again.
  3. Michel makes yet another test and inroduces his credibility meter and using cherry picking selects only answers he deems to be sincere, the test was a failure yet again.
  4. Michel claims to be able to spot sarcasm and jokes but has taken numerous joke posts seriously.
  5. Michel claims he can detect lies but goes 0-5 when tested.
  6. Michel says being under water or in a submarine may block his thoughts but he isn't sure.
  7. Michel now thinks nearly very honest question is either a trick question
  8. Michel is asked a direct, non leading, non trick, straight forward question, He refuses to answer and labels the question "perverse".
I think it would be far more accurate to say that the latest telepathy test I have done on this forum (in which Emily's Cat gave an incorrect and non-credible answer, while cullennz, from New Zealand (the antipode, for me in Belgium), gave a correct and credible answer, opening post, analysis) was a superb success.

The final part of this post reposted content that had been banished with cause to AAH. It should not appear here. However, since it did raise an issue of forum management, it has been copied to the appropriate area of the forum for such discussions. The post can be found here.
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I think it would be far more accurate to say that the latest telepathy test I have done on this forum (in which Emily's Cat gave an incorrect and non-credible answer, while cullennz, from New Zealand (the antipode, for me in Belgium), gave a correct and credible answer, opening post, analysis) was a superb success.

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I think it would be far more accurate to say that the latest telepathy test I have done on this forum (in which Emily's Cat gave an incorrect and non-credible answer, while cullennz, from New Zealand (the antipode, for me in Belgium), gave a correct and credible answer, opening post, analysis) was a superb success.

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Nothing you have done in these threads is even remotely close to a "Superb Success" in your mind it is, Which again I ask, Why are you doing all this? What is the point? is there anything that would ever get you to start doubting?
 
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I have a better idea. I believe I can communicate with people using the Internet. I will take Kid Eager's challenge. Kid Eager, please PM me one of the words on your list. I will then post the word on this forum, and invite other people to tell me which word I posted. That way, we can determine whether your challenge is capable of giving a positive result, or whether, as Michel H claims, it is too difficult a challenge for anyone to meet accurately and seriously.

Everybody on for this?

Dave

I'm starting to worry about this. I think Kid Eager may have got the idea a bit muddled and tried to send me the word telepathically.

Dave
 
Telepathy test: which word did I write?

Hi, I invite you to participate in a telepathy test.

At about 5:47 p.m. on this Friday October 14 (Brussels, Belgium time), I wrote carefully one of the ten words: "Belgium", "England", "Scotland", "Ireland", "U.S.A.", "Australia", "New Zealand", "France", "Germany" and "Russia" on my sheet of paper, and I surrounded it with a rough ellipse. Then, I wrote it again twice.

I shall repeat this word from time to time during this test.

I ask you to write it here (if you think you know it, even with a doubt). You may also answer "I don't know".

In an attempt to try to give some clarity to this test, I also ask you to answer the following question :
Do you sometimes have an impression of "hearing some of my thoughts", because of an unusual telepathy phenomenon?
My (first) name is Michel, I live near Brussels (Belgium).

Thank you for participating.
 
I have no idea what word you wrote. I am 100% certain of this. I have never felt any sensation of receiving thoughts from you or any other person other than via the usual sensory apparatus.

Dave
 
I have no idea what word you wrote. I am 100% certain of this. I have never felt any sensation of receiving thoughts from you or any other person other than via the usual sensory apparatus.

Dave
Thank you for your answer, Dave Rogers. It does certainly have a virtue of clarity. Whether it has a virtue of honesty as well is a different issue.
 
I don't know which word you wrote.

I never have an impression of seeming to hear some of your thoughts.

This is a completely honest and sincere answer without any sarcasm or hidden jokes at all.
 

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