New telepathy test, the sequel.

Michel H said:
Thank you for your answer, Dave Rogers. It does certainly have a virtue of clarity. Whether it has a virtue of honesty as well is a different issue.
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And this is why it is pointless to engage with you; you reject as a lie any answer that disagrees with your starting hypothesis. You've said before, by the way, that clearer and more definite answers are of better quality; I presume that rule has now become inconvenient and must be jettisoned.

Dave
 
Dave Rogers said:
... You've said before, by the way, that clearer and more definite answers are of better quality; I presume that rule has now become inconvenient and must be jettisoned.

Dave
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Did I really say this? (you are not quoting me, using the technical possibilities of this forum).

I don't think a super-clear and very-dishonest answer is better than a partly honest and somewhat ambiguous reply, no.
 
This test would be more valid if you didn't give any options. Let people choose from the whole range of all words from all languages. If people can really hear your thoughts then a large number of people should get the correct word, even just by writing the first thing that comes into their heads.

In order to prevent people copying each other, you could have people send them to you via PM, and you reveal after a week or a month what all the different words were. You should also send the word you're thinking of to a trusted person in advance.

If, say, 60% of people get the word correct, then that counts as a pass.

What say you?
 
Michel H said:
Did I really say this? (you are not quoting me, using the technical possibilities of this forum).
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You've said a great many things, and the sheer volume of posts makes it difficult to find any specific statement. But here's a set of criteria for determining the honesty of a post that you posted some time ago. I note that you say these criteria are, not that these criteria include, the items on the list.

Michel H said:
Like I did for a previous test done on Yahoo! Answers (see this thread: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237268 ), I have studied each of the 13 valid answers to this test, and I have given to each a "credibility rating" (CR) between -10 and +10. Credible answers (i.e. those with a positive CR) are ideally kind and smart, while non-credible answers (which get a negative CR), are those which do not sound serious, sincere and reliable. Reasons why an answer may not be credible are:
• It is too aggressive.
• It contains one or several incorrect statements.
• It is odd or bizarre.
• The answerer says that his/her answer is not related to telepathy.
• The answer contains a very large number of spelling or syntaxic errors.
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And let's recap my response.

I have no idea what word you wrote. I am 100% certain of this. I have never felt any sensation of receiving thoughts from you or any other person other than via the usual sensory apparatus.

Which of your criteria apply to this statement?

Dave
 
Dave Rogers said:
You've said a great many things, and the sheer volume of posts makes it difficult to find any specific statement. But here's a set of criteria for determining the honesty of a post that you posted some time ago. I note that you say these criteria are, not that these criteria include, the items on the list.



And let's recap my response.

I have no idea what word you wrote. I am 100% certain of this. I have never felt any sensation of receiving thoughts from you or any other person other than via the usual sensory apparatus.

Which of your criteria apply to this statement?

Dave
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I see no obvious reason why I should discard your statement as non-credible. However, it is my experience that, in the area of telepathy, people can frequently be very dishonest. I am not that interested in polished "standard lies".

I also note that you did not choose any of the ten countries proposed in my opening post, as your answer (it's usually when people really participate in the test, by making a definite choice in the forced-choice test, that things begin to become more interesting).
 
A very sincere answer.

I looked at and concentrated on each word in your list for several seconds. I did that several times.

I got no impression of any of the words over any of the others, so I don't know what word you wrote.

I have never had any impression that I could hear your thoughts or those of anyone else.
 
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Michel H said:
Hi, I invite you to participate in a telepathy test.

At about 5:47 p.m. on this Friday October 14 (Brussels, Belgium time), I wrote carefully one of the ten words: "Belgium", "England", "Scotland", "Ireland", "U.S.A.", "Australia", "New Zealand", "France", "Germany" and "Russia" on my sheet of paper, and I surrounded it with a rough ellipse. Then, I wrote it again twice.

I shall repeat this word from time to time during this test.

I ask you to write it here (if you think you know it, even with a doubt). You may also answer "I don't know".

In an attempt to try to give some clarity to this test, I also ask you to answer the following question :
Do you sometimes have an impression of "hearing some of my thoughts", because of an unusual telepathy phenomenon?
My (first) name is Michel, I live near Brussels (Belgium).

Thank you for participating.
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I have no idea which word you chose or wrote. I have never received any thought from you.
 
Michel H said:
Hi, I invite you to participate in a telepathy test.

At about 5:47 p.m. on this Friday October 14 (Brussels, Belgium time), I wrote carefully one of the ten words: "Belgium", "England", "Scotland", "Ireland", "U.S.A.", "Australia", "New Zealand", "France", "Germany" and "Russia" on my sheet of paper, and I surrounded it with a rough ellipse. Then, I wrote it again twice.

I shall repeat this word from time to time during this test.

I ask you to write it here (if you think you know it, even with a doubt). You may also answer "I don't know".

In an attempt to try to give some clarity to this test, I also ask you to answer the following question :
Do you sometimes have an impression of "hearing some of my thoughts", because of an unusual telepathy phenomenon?
My (first) name is Michel, I live near Brussels (Belgium).

Thank you for participating.
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This is now getting to just be spam.

You will not care what the results are, This is a pointless endeavor as all your other tests have been.
 
Dave Rogers said:
And how do you determine the level of honesty?

Dave
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Same we he does credibility. If the person answered correctly then it's credible/honest if they picked something else then what he circled they are not credible/dishonest.

ETA: Michel; I do not know what word you wrote or circled, I cannot and have never heard your thoughts, ever
 
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I do not have any idea. I can't read thoughts. No one can. I've never heard any of your thoughts.
 
I have never had the impression of hearing or otherwise perceiving anyone else's thoughts, so I have no idea which word you wrote down and thought about.
 
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