New telepathy test, the sequel.

Michel H, would you ever accept a promise (before the test started) from a subject that he will tell you the absolute truth (at the end of the test) about whether he heard your thoughts or not?

That's a yes or no answer.
 
The Sparrow said:
Michel H, would you ever accept a promise (before the test started) from a subject that he will tell you the absolute truth (at the end of the test) about whether he heard your thoughts or not?

That's a yes or no answer.
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I am not sure what you mean with your phrase "accept a promise", The Sparrow. If somebody wants to tell me, at the beginning of a test "I promise, I'll tell you the truth at the end of the test, when the test is over", he or she is welcome to do that (and, anyway, I cannot prevent it). But emphatic promises to tell the truth are no guarantees at all. And, anyway, I think it is probably better to be a little relaxed about this whole strange business.
 
Michel H said:
I am not sure what you mean with your phrase "accept a promise", The Sparrow. If somebody wants to tell me, at the beginning of a test "I promise, I'll tell you the truth at the end of the test, when the test is over", he or she is welcome to do that (and, anyway, I cannot prevent it). But emphatic promises to tell the truth are no guarantees at all. And, anyway, I think it is probably better to be a little relaxed about this whole strange business.
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What if I promised to tell a lie but got the number right? Would you count that as a correct answer?

Dave

(PS. Don't bother answering; I already know. And not because you're telepathic.)
 
Michel H said:
I am not sure what you mean with your phrase "accept a promise", The Sparrow. If somebody wants to tell me, at the beginning of a test "I promise, I'll tell you the truth at the end of the test, when the test is over", he or she is welcome to do that (and, anyway, I cannot prevent it). But emphatic promises to tell the truth are no guarantees at all. And, anyway, I think it is probably better to be a little relaxed about this whole strange business.
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So you cannot trust anyone to give you a truthful answer after the test?
 
That's why I suggested an experiment trying to influence the behaviour of animals. Dogs may be capable of deception, but nobody could explain to a dog that they have to agree to lie to Michel.
 
Loss Leader said:
Michel, you avoided my question.

Did you murder 39 people in India? Or did your thoughts have nothing to do with the train crash?
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I would not go so far as to say that "I murdered 39 people in India" (btw, another telepathic incident may have taken place recently. Yesterday, I posted:
Michel H said:
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According to ABC (Australian), ...
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. Now, today, I read that a violent incident has taken place in Australia, it was on the BBC News front page: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-38714920 . This incident seems strange (not to say "very strange"), and I suspect some kind of telepathic effect as well).

However, I feel that this humanity is (apparently) guilty of lying to me, of persecuting me, sometimes of trying to "poison me" with inadequate and toxic drugs, and of not providing efficient help when they are fully aware of the facts. Normally, when a certain group of people is guilty of a certain crime, it must be punished (there is some legal basis for this, in terms of "right of self-defense", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_self-defense , it seems to me). I know that all of this sounds very negative, this is why I sometimes try to help too.
 
Michel H said:
I would not go so far as to say that "I murdered 39 people in India" (btw, another telepathic incident may have taken place recently. Yesterday, I posted:
. Now, today, I read that a violent incident has taken place in Australia, it was on the BBC News front page: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-38714920 . This incident seems strange (not to say "very strange"), and I suspect some kind of telepathic effect as well).

However, I feel that this humanity is (apparently) guilty of lying to me, of persecuting me, sometimes of trying to "poison me" with inadequate and toxic drugs, and of not providing efficient help when they are fully aware of the facts. Normally, when a certain group of people is guilty of a certain crime, it must be punished (there is some legal basis for this, in terms of "right of self-defense", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_self-defense , it seems to me). I know that all of this sounds very negative, this is why I sometimes try to help too.
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Did your thoughts contribute to the death of 39 people in India?
 
Michel H said:
I cannot rule it out completely (see my previous post for explanation).
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Then prove that you care about the deaths you may have caused. Contact the Indian Ministry of Railways' Safety Office to explain your part in the death of 39 of their people. Phone numbers can be found here: http://dir.railnet.gov.in/wiki/safty

The main number for the Director of Safety's Office is: +00 +91 23381344

All educated Indians speak english, so you should have no trouble communicating.
 
Michel H said:
I would not go so far as to say that "I murdered 39 people in India" (btw, another telepathic incident may have taken place recently. Yesterday, I posted:
. Now, today, I read that a violent incident has taken place in Australia, it was on the BBC News front page: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-38714920 . This incident seems strange (not to say "very strange"), and I suspect some kind of telepathic effect as well).
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Even for you, this is utter frog crap. If you posted about Australia yesterday, are you not even aware that the Bourke St. Mall incident happened last Friday? So now your powers seem to include having an effect on things that have already happened!

Is that your new claim?

Norm
 
fromdownunder said:
Even for you, this is utter frog crap. If you posted about Australia yesterday, are you not even aware that the Bourke St. Mall incident happened last Friday? So now your powers seem to include having an effect on things that have already happened!

Is that your new claim?

Norm
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Certainly not.
I posted:
Michel H said:
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According to ABC (Australian),
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on January 22, 6:51 p.m. GMT.
The incident I was referring to happened in Brisbane on January 23, around 4:00 a.m. GMT, see also:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...man-shot-in-chest-in-cbd-20170123-gtwziq.html

The serious incident you mention took place in Melbourne, not in Brisbane:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Jimmy-Gargasoulas-arrives-police-station.html
http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...e/news-story/5d2756304a8ffad103de5bbe1cda2553
 
Michel H said:
I see nothing irrational here.
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The Michel H Irrational Paradox
1) Claim that everyone on the planet can read your mind and everyone lies about that ability, to you.

2) Ask those exact same people to answer truthfully (knowing they will lie) in an experiment, whether they can read you mind.


I suggest most of the posts we are observing are his internal fragment & separate the issues mechanism for dealing with his conflicting psychiatric delusions.
 
Michel H said:
Certainly not.
I posted:

on January 22, 6:51 p.m. GMT.
The incident I was referring to happened in Brisbane on January 23, around 4:00 a.m. GMT, see also:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...man-shot-in-chest-in-cbd-20170123-gtwziq.html

The serious incident you mention took place in Melbourne, not in Brisbane:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Jimmy-Gargasoulas-arrives-police-station.html
http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...e/news-story/5d2756304a8ffad103de5bbe1cda2553
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So to be clear, you believe that because to typed the names of specific countries, bad things happened there. And because you believe this, you come back on here and continue to type their names.

You never act like a person who believes the claims he is making.
 
Michel, you ignored my post. You said that you could not completely rule out whether you were responsible for 39 deaths in India.

If that is true and if you consider yourself a moral person, you should report your suspicions to the Indian Railway Ministry. I would hope you're not an unrepentant murderer. Their contact phone numbers can be found here: http://dir.railnet.gov.in/wiki/safty

The main number for the Director of Safety's Office is: +00 +91 23381344

All educated Indians speak english, so you should have no trouble communicating.[/QUOTE]
 
TheSapient said:
So to be clear, you believe that because to typed the names of specific countries, bad things happened there. And because you believe this, you come back on here and continue to type their names.
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No, I did not want to cause any trouble to anyone, I was just trying to respond honestly to Loss Leader (in the case of India), and to Jack by the hedge (in the case of Australia). I don't post here with some kind of secret and perverse intent to make bad things happen.
 
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